Is a PC ok for a Tournament Setup?

[LDSenpai]

Instead of hauling around CRTs, why aren't PCs used more? Melee with Dolphin is very easy to run and it supports the Wii U adapter with 0 input lag. They seem more convenient with CRTs becoming harder to find.

 

[EPsilon933]

CRTs are still pretty common in thrift stores. Their rarity isn't a problem yet. Also, they have no lag, unlike non-CRT monitors

I think comfort has a significant effect on why everyone prefers playing on consoles. For big events, playing on an emulator might not be legally very safe

 

[Flippy Flippersen]

Pcs tend to bring issues.

There is still lag

Generally speaking non gaming laptops (the majority of setups people would bring to tourneys) can't run doubles. (or in some cases even just fountain)

On the topic of doubles plugging in 4 wii u adapters in 1 laptop is also something not every laptop has

Using emulators tends to be in an iffy spot legality wise.

People generally are more prone to bring their crt of around 10 bucks or less to a tournament to sit around with strangers all day than their 400 bucks and up laptop.

Are a few things that come to mind of the top of my head.

 

[Stride]

One issue is the lack of standardisation of PCs. If someone brings a Wii or GameCube with a Melee disc then you can be sure that it's going to run the game the same as any other Wii or GameCube with a Melee disc. With an emulator, you're going off the word of the person who brought it that it's sufficiently powerful and correctly configured to run at full speed at all times without input lag or emulation bugs or anything of that nature. I know for sure that I'd refuse to play on an emulator setup in tournament because of the unknown factors involved (and the corresponding risks); I don't benefit from it at all as a player either.

LCD monitors can still be used with consoles; there's no need to use emulators if you're only bothered by the use of CRTs. CRTs are preferable in every aspect I can think of besides ease of transportation, space efficiency, power consumption (barely relevant), and perhaps eye strain. There's little incentive to transition to laggier, more expensive, more complex, non-standardised setups when CRTs are still as accessible as they are now.

 

[LDSenpai]

Pcs tend to bring issues.

There is still lag

Generally speaking non gaming laptops (the majority of setups people would bring to tourneys) can't run doubles. (or in some cases even just fountain)

On the topic of doubles plugging in 4 wii u adapters in 1 laptop is also something not every laptop has

Using emulators tends to be in an iffy spot legality wise.

People generally are more prone to bring their crt of around 10 bucks or less to a tournament to sit around with strangers all day than their 400 bucks and up laptop.

Are a few things that come to mind of the top of my head.

Melee is an old game, someone managed to run Melee 60 fps on a Chromebook, Dolphin isn't illegal because it doesn't require a bios, and if you rip your game yourself it is fine. Most sets would probably be on gaming desktops, no would play on a laptop, but if they did, the Official Wii U Adapter (which is required for 0 input lag) only requires 2 usbs and has 4 ports.

 

[Flippy Flippersen]

Melee is an old game, someone managed to run Melee 60 fps on a Chromebook, Dolphin isn't illegal because it doesn't require a bios, and if you rip your game yourself it is fine. Most sets would probably be on gaming desktops, no would play on a laptop, but if they did, the Official Wii U Adapter (which is required for 0 input lag) only requires 2 usbs and has 4 ports.

I think lugging desktops with screen around is worse than crts.
I also don't think people will rip their gc game cause it is more of a hassle than pirating it. Regardless of how it got on the pc though I think (not 100% sure) that if you put a game on an emulator it is only for personal use. (Which is to say only the owner) I also believe there is a law stating emulators aren't allowed to perform as well as the original console version. (Or at the very least they don't yet.) I also come back to the point that a gaming desktop+gaming screen are significantly more expensive than a crt+ wii

 

[EPsilon933]

Desktop computers are also a bit more expensive compared to (used) Wiis and Gamecubes. Consoles are basically in every way easier

 

[bearsfan092]

If you can't feel the input lag on Dolphin, then we can't really talk about replacing CRTs with emulator setups. I have a year old build with a gaming monitor, and even the Sewell HDMI adapter from a Wii to the same monitor is leagues better than Dolphin.

Not even really a debate imo.

 

[Y-L]

If you can't feel the input lag on Dolphin, then we can't really talk about replacing CRTs with emulator setups. I have a year old build with a gaming monitor, and even the Sewell HDMI adapter from a Wii to the same monitor is leagues better than Dolphin.

Not even really a debate imo.

Theoretically, using a CRT monitor/potentially an extremely good gaming monitor + exclusive fullscreen mode + wii u adapter should yield less latency than console since the wii u adapter can poll faster than a console can.

However I am opposed to the idea of PC's at tournaments for the time being just because of the possibility of frame drops or crashes and the potential for cheats/mods to be on. Mostly frame drops. You don't have to worry about that with a console. Portability is a lot easier with a console so for those reasons I can't really see PC's being viable currently.

 

[bearsfan092]

Yeah the Wii U adapter can, but dolphin doesn't process inputs nearly as quickly. That's your real bottleneck

 

[Y-L]

Yeah the Wii U adapter can, but dolphin doesn't process inputs nearly as quickly. That's your real bottleneck

That's actually completely false. Dolphin can process the inputs as soon as it receives them. I have no idea where you're getting your information from. Feel free to provide sources.