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Interesting New Ideas [Exlusive characters]

Jmax

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After some thought of what would bring some originality to brawl, I thought of a pretty interesting Idea of having exclusive characters per region

In other words, There would be one character on the Japanese version of the that only that version has.

And a Exclusive character for only the North American Version.

And another exclusive for Europe.

This Idea came to me after realizing that Europe is probably gonna have to wait a pretty long time after us (or maybe not), and maybe the would have a really interesting exclusive that would make their wait worthwhile.

Well, Discuss..
 

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I dont like the sound of that, it just doesnt seem fair. especialy when a character they would get could be one that is highly desired world wide. it wouldnt be fair to set it up like that.
 

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Why would anyone want that? Why would anyone not want 2 more characters? What would Nintendo be accomplishing other than frustrating their fans? I'm pretty sure we would have Fire Emblem in the States if it weren't for allowing Japan-only FE characters in Melee. There's no good reason to make characters exclusive.
 

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NO ONE would want that...

I LIKE Japanese characters...

That wouldn't be fair...or even make sense...
 

Jmax

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It's similar to Soul caliber, and purchasing it for diffrent systems.

I think it would be interesting IMO. :/
 

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It's similar to Soul caliber, and purchasing it for diffrent systems.

I think it would be interesting IMO. :/
You think knowing you won't get a certain character because of where you live is interesting?
 

Jmax

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Yes o.o, why not? If you play one of the exclusive chars online or something, you would know where they were from. And just like you would be envious of their chars, they would be envious of yours.
 

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Yes o.o, why not? If you play one of the exclusive chars online or something, you would know where they were from. And just like you would be envious of their chars, they would be envious of yours.
Well, I think that's a stupid idea because they could easily have just put all 3 characters in 1 single version and no one would be mad
 

Jmax

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They could.. But they he also could add goku, a power ranger, and giraffe as a character and everyone would be mad.

Well, I'm just being open minded about new ideas here. . .
 

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They could.. But they he also could add goku, a power ranger, and giraffe as a character and everyone would be mad.

Well, I'm just being open minded about new ideas here. . .
You just used the example of another game...it's not really a new idea and also not fair for different areas if a character is in another country that they rooted for the be playable
 

Jmax

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I was actually only referring to new ideas Smash Bros. wise, since I am a bit tired of seeing tons of repeat threads, and threads for new characters that have no chance of getting in. I know I wasn't the first to think of such an idea though, which was why I mentioned Soul Caliber.

Also, it being unfair is an opinion, as long as all 3 get cool characters, it seems fair to me.
 

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The idea is just dumb, selfish and would only entice jealousy between the masses. Thankfully such a foolish idea would never come about.

-Knight
 

Dry Bones

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it reminds me of that game... uh, soul caliber 2 i think it was, that had an exclusive character for each system. its an interesting idea, but for the same game on the same system, i just dont think it would go down well
 

EPX2

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Sakurai allegedly was planning on doing this in Melee with the Fire Emblem characters, but decided against it. I don't think he'd really be willing to re-explore that possibility after seeing how Melee was able to drastically increase Fire Emblem's exposure and popularity.
 

Rikka

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Just because it would bring "originality" doesn't mean it's a good idea.
 

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JOTARO IS DISTURBED
by how stupid this idea is.



why the hell would ANYONE want region-exclusive characters!? that isn't an "original new idea" no, not at all. its just STUPID. whats the point of going through the trouble of programming those characters just to have them only exlusive to a certain region? Heck, if a character I like (such as takamaru) ends up as a character only in the japanese version, I will be PO'd.

then again, why should I do my usual screaming at you when its obvious this idea is never going to happen. so no worries ^_^
 

Chaosblade77

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You can't compare it to Soul Caliber. With that game, anyone could own all three consoles and have any of the unique characters. With a region exclusive character, you are basically screwed out of getting them because of things that are out of your control. At least with Soul Caliber, you have the option to get the console or not.

That disregards the money factor at least. There is also no option to just get an imported version of the game for that character. If you have a US Wii, Japanese games won't work on it, for example. At least, that is what I have heard.
 

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Well maybe Japan can have marth back, America can have (cant think of one so im using): Master Cheif (long stretch i know), and Europe can have one of their european dudes.
 

EPX2

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"Interesting" is not always synonymous with "good" or "pleasing."

A rock could prove to be an "interesting" character in Brawl... not necessarily a "good" choice, however, considering there's many other signficant characters to choose from.

Likewise, while the idea of region-exclusive characters could be pretty interesting, I guarantee it'd ultimately end up being widely criticized.
 

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Well maybe Japan can have marth back, America can have (cant think of one so im using): Master Cheif (long stretch i know), and Europe can have one of their european dudes.
Or... no. There's no reason for Marth to be excluded from any version of Brawl.
 

Chaosblade77

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Well maybe Japan can have marth back, America can have (cant think of one so im using): Master Cheif (long stretch i know), and Europe can have one of their european dudes.
See, that is a great example of how it could turn out REALLY bad.
 

Jmax

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Lol, chill out folks. I meant "discuss" as whether you like the idea or not. Not flaming. I know some of you are a little immature to handle this it seems, but it IS possible to disagree with someone in a civilized manner.

And besides, if the only reason some of you think it's a bad idea because you want more characters, I'd like to hear more reasons, cuz that really isn't a very good one in my opinion.
 

EPX2

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Lol, chill out folks. I meant "discuss" as whether you like the idea or not. Not flaming. I know some of you are a little immature to handle this it seems, but it IS possible to disagree with someone in a civilized manner.

And besides, if the only reason some of you think it's a bad idea because you want more characters, I'd like to hear more reasons, cuz that really isn't a very good one in my opinion.
If, "It'd be cool" is an acceptable pro-argument, why is, "No, because that'd mean there'd be a lessened character roster" an unacceptable anti-argument?
 

Jmax

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It wouldn't be a lessened character roster, it would be equal for all the versions, and I understand we all want as many chars as possible, but i'd like to hear other reasons, because I don't that would be a good enough reason to not have something like this happen*.

*I personally don't see this actually coming into effect, I just think it would be an interesting idea.
 

EPX2

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It wouldn't be a lessened character roster, it would be equal for all the versions, and I understand we all want as many chars as possible, but i'd like to hear other reasons, because I don't that would be a good enough reason to not have something like this happen*.

*I personally don't see this actually coming into effect, I just think it would be an interesting idea.
Each version would have a lessened character roster since at least two other characters would be intentionally excluded. Most people obviously don't want to be barred from playing as characters that are already in the game, so they're going to disapprove of any proposals for intentionally excluding certain characters based on whichever region you're located. How is that not a good enough reason?
 

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Well, it supports wifi, so if you have an online battle, say Japan gets... Samurai Jack (Shut up) and America gets Spawn, and UK gets Duke Nukem (going off the top of my head), nobody can practice on those people except on online, and what if Samurai Jack is marginally better than Duke Nukem? that's unfair.
 

Jmax

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I do see how that could be a problem, but no characters should be marginally better then anyone. This game is pretty balanced, (so far anyway)
 

Thedude3445

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Well, as long as the characters have a massive appeal in the country, but only in that country (ex. Tingle), I can't see why not, other than Ninty's "Fair" streak.
 

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I think it also may complicate some aspects of the online play and adventure mode (given that any of them would be included)
 

C.Olimar788

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I must say I hate this idea. A lot. The pure mental pain I would be in if I knew that I didn't get characters I really SHOULD have... There's no reason, if they're making three characters, to limit them to specific versions. I would be so upset if Marth and Roy had been taken out of Melee, like they were supposed to be, for the NA release.

And what if another version got a character you liked? There's nothing you can do about it. In the Soul Caliber exclusive character for each platform thing you could buy it for another platform if you were so inclined. But in different languages, you'd end up having multiple Wiis, and that's just silly, especially if you can't even understand one or more of them.
 

ValiantVernon

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no cause then i might want the char the other ones got :( and world wide tourneys would be impossible most likely...
 

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hmm who could possibly be exclusive for an Australian version.

Let me think about that one.. searching for good mascots......
There was that Ty the Tasmania Tiger, but that never went too well, and is totally hopeless and is the worse character they could think of. Especially for a species which is extinct.

Also I really think the wait wont be that long between US and PAL. It's got to be at least a month if not less.
Because if you look at the my Music update you should note the 6+1 languages for Music for all countries.

Apparently Americans have the same option of listening to it in spanish, german or such. Therefore it should be converted for Europeans most of the way, even in an american version, this is the thing that holds up games like FE, and Paer Mario translation, but since that work has already been done and is being done then we should only have to wait for them to convert their NTSC to PAL. Translation is taken care of.

Also I'm pretty sure Sakurai wouldn't do it either. FE got a lot of props for being on Smash Bros. It got people interested in the series and allowed Nintendo to finally let a great series reach a worldwide audience. It was a very smart move, and i'm sure if Nintendo have any Japan only characters that they would like to go worldwide then they wouldn't mind giving them a spot in Smash Bros. just to see if they are appreciated.
 

Iris

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I'd rather not have exclusive characters. It was bad enough in Melee when there were exclusive trophies.
 
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