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Inspired by Valoem, character learning curve. Part 1: Falcon

KoRoBeNiKi

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Inspired by Valoem's Topic......I am making a character specific one per character:

Level 0 [the noobs]: See Valoem’s post

Level 1 (Part 1) [the B move phase]: At this point you understand all the moves but just barely. You know captain falcon has a falcon punch. You rely mostly on falcon punches and falcon kicks to kill people. A moves aren’t as apparent. People barely roll and barely shield. Falcon users at this point don’t have a grasp of aerials and believe that to win, you just need to spam b and down b.

Level 1 (Part 2): Falcon uses use smashes but barely. Still uses falcon punch for KOS and doesn’t know combos. Throws are still not apparent. Whenever they see that they cannot kill people, normally a falcon punch or falcon kick comes. Aerials are barely used and rolling is still a major oddity. Tilts are still not used.

Level 2 (Part 1) [The smash attack phase]: The main difference for Falcon in this stage is that the user sees that they can’t kill that easily with falcon’s smashes. They see his up smash hits people high but not high enough. Falcon’s forward smash becomes a necessity and people spam it. They still use Falcon Punch when they can’t muster a KO. At this point, they can beat a level 1 Part A incredibly easily and a Level 1 Part B moderately easy. Throws are still not found to be good. Rolling is more common but still rare.

Level 2 (Part 2): Falcons at this stage do not use b moves or only use them when they know it will hit. Most falcon’s smash spam and they become a little bit less predictable. Grabs are now used a bit more and aerials are at a starting point. They start to use falcon’s speed to get quick smash kills off.

Level 3 (Part 1) [the grab phase]: Falcon users at this point still use smashes but grabs are becoming one of the only moves they use. Aerials are used but not for combos and sometimes only accidentally. They shield but are still predictable. It is moderately easier for them to KO and they believe falcon is great because he has one of the better grabs. Many of them will run back and forth grab spamming. Early Level 2’s and late level 2’s are normally beaten very easily and most players develop a cocky attitude thinking they are great at the game.

Level 3 (Part 2): This the longest lasting phase. 80 to 90% of all players are trapped on this level and think they are unbeatable at the game. I used to be this before I played vs. Isai and Sensei at Smashtality II in a friendly. They think that they are great and they think that there are no advanced techniques. People are still grab spammers but not as much. They will combo but at a bare minimum and sometimes accidentally. People believe that grabs are by far the best move in the game and use falcon’s speed to grab and smash. Aerials are used but at a basic potential

Level 4 [advance techniques]: I developed this more online. People start watching Isai’s Smash 64 Falcon or other major ones. People start to short hop with falcon and see how powerful his combos are. They see how powerful his up air combos and at this stage, you will see up smash to up air chains. Grabs are used but only when necessary. They use the normal combos. Most good people online are of this level. I believe that I am personally at this level.

Level 5 (Part 1) [The mastering level]: People use falcon’s speeds and aerials to overwhelm opponents. Other aerial combos become really common and it is not that common for someone to easily 0 to death or gimp someone with falcon. Short hops are common and they have a very easy time beating Level 3’s. These are the people who teach level 3’s a lesson. They have good reaction time and it is very difficult to grab them. They learn how to play vs. bad matchups. DI is becoming better. I believe Fireblaster among other people are at this level. They will lose with their weaker characters to level 4’s but almost never with stronger characters besides people approaching level 5. Short hop forward air becomes a major staple.

Level 5 (Part 2) [the touch of death]: Examples of this stage include Alancitu, SuperBoomFan, Jaime, Tsukuru, Takamitsu, and Johnny. There is basically no such thing as a non-0 to death. Combos are done and people only lose to counter characters when they play serious or just because they miss the 0 to death first. People DI heavily and falcon’s actually survive despite their bad recovery. They make Falcon’s recovery actually look good.

Level 100: You are Isai, enough said.
 

valoem

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good ****! though i think that grabbing is still a good combo starter for falcon at a high level
 

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i don't think tsukuru and takamitsu are in the boom/alancitu/jaime/johnny falcon level, from what i've seen.
 

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There is basically no such thing as a non-0 to death.
LIES. Boom couldn't 0-death me ALL the time. But I did have hax DI and he didn't play me with his main [assuming Falcon/Mario are mains]...BAH.

Also, despite it being a list with no real use, I do want to say this. You put so much transition for nubs, but so little for higher levels. For example, Level 4. The description is mostly learning techs. There should be a part 1 for learning stuffs, and a part 2 for mastering stuffs.

Even though it's a good idea not to take these seriously. :p
 

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LIES. Boom couldn't 0-death me ALL the time. But I did have hax DI and he didn't play me with his main [assuming Falcon/Mario are mains]...BAH.

Also, despite it being a list with no real use, I do want to say this. You put so much transition for nubs, but so little for higher levels. For example, Level 4. The description is mostly learning techs. There should be a part 1 for learning stuffs, and a part 2 for mastering stuffs.

Even though it's a good idea not to take these seriously. :p
when boom plays Falcon its generally all 0-deaths....why do you think even people like me and The Greginator get 3-4 stocked most of the time >_<

NOTE: the 0-deaths are higher on Dreamland
 

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Yah, he wasn't using Falcon, AND I had the KB combo escaper, and last time I played there was lots of lag, that's why I said bah. Cause it means nothing.
 

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good ****! though i think that grabbing is still a good combo starter for falcon at a high level
What I mean is that they become less predictable and stop just trying to randomly grab. They use short hop aerials or other moves to allow grabs to occur.

Also, should I make each character on the same page or on a separate page?
 

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What I mean is that they become less predictable and stop just trying to randomly grab. They use short hop aerials or other moves to allow grabs to occur.

Also, should I make each character on the same page or on a separate page?
you could do it like the Brawl char over view page...if youve seen it
 

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You know, since I don't agree with any list, I should post one.

Superstar's correct list

You suck. You lose a lot, and you fail.

You don't suck. You beat the people that suck.

END OF
 

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no body asked you what you think! they all get owned by Isai ...simple
lol nobody asked you to say that D:

btw, why arent you a smash debater anymore?

Oh and to become a falcon masters there are some clear steps that probably eveyone does:

1- Learn how to do the uair combo.
2- Try to make it last as much as possible, making the most damage.
3- Believe you are unbeatable
4- Get owned by a truely good player
 

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This is nice and all, but I don't see the point of those lists at all honestly
 

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lol nobody asked you to say that D:

btw, why arent you a smash debater anymore?

Oh and to become a falcon masters there are some clear steps that probably eveyone does:

1- Learn how to do the uair combo.
2- Try to make it last as much as possible, making the most damage.
3- Believe you are unbeatable
4- Get owned by a truely good player
I still am, but what sounds cooler to you

Smash Lord

or

Smash Debater (even though Smash has allmost never come up)

and i was jk with my post...i should state that or make it more obvious.

The point is even "IF" (key word) they are not on the exact same scale, according to this lerning curve (which is why i said in Valoem's that it should be extended) its the only proper place for them.
 

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I still am, but what sounds cooler to you

Smash Lord

or

Smash Debater (even though Smash has allmost never come up)

and i was jk with my post...i should state that or make it more obvious.

The point is even "IF" (key word) they are not on the exact same scale, according to this lerning curve (which is why i said in Valoem's that it should be extended) its the only proper place for them.
Smash Debater is more exclusive. Well nvm, the upper is your rank (smash lord, smash master...) the more time you waste here lol.
 
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