theres really no practice needed whatsoever, just doubletap grab (easier if you map it to something other than Z) right when dedede stomps them (with slight variation for the different characters) and thats all there is to it, other than having to mix in jabs on some of them cause of move decay. Now here's something new on this discussion. Yesterday I played in a tournament using my dedede, and on one station they had set up, i can only deduce that there is either already a different version of brawl, or this guy's wii was modded in some strange way. The two key things i noticed was, using the infite against mario, it would act as if the move was completely stale from the first grab. No matter how many time i tried, even after killing myself to refresh it, you could not directly grab him again after the first downgrab. putting in a jab or two though, it would work, but you'd have to put in at least 1 jab inbetween every downthrow or it wouldnt work. One other thing that was strange on thise station was that, in case you didnt know, after pit has started his UP B, if he gets hit, he cant use it again and hes ****ed. Well, on this one, my friend used his UP B three times after getting hit each time, so either something was very wrong with this one particular copy of smash, or there's a new version out that had these two things changed. That's all fine and sweel for pit but it sucks for us Dedede's. =/ I'm just grateful I didn't lose that particular tourny match due to all the single downthrows expecting it to go into another. Although I lost later to a time camping toon link due to no sudden death rules >_>;