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In process of making a new team.

Wii4Mii 99

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Yep. I decided to just edit this thread :cool: instead of creating another RMT thread. :psycho:

It'll be a Sandstorm team again. I've done reasearch this time, and this team will be a LOT better than my old Sandstorm team. It won't have a huge Water/Ice weakness, either.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Edit: Here's my team. I just have to think of a moveset, etc.

Tyranitar
Rhyperior
Salamence
Gengar
Forretress
Blissey
 

9Kplus1

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Swampert
Torrent
Leftovers
Impish(Def+ SA-)
240hp/56atk/212def

Hammer Arm
Curse
Earthquake
Avalanche

Obviously, the first Pokemon on my list is my Lead. Set up Stealth Rock first. Roar can phaze and can be used to scout out the Pokes on my opponent's team, while damaging the pokes from Stealth Rock. Swampert isn't the fastest, so Avalanche will most likely double in damage. Earthquake for teh STAB. Earthquake and Avalanche is only resisted by Bronzong.

Swampert's better as a Curser rather than a Stealth-Roar-er, but its good anyways, make it an Adamant Nature or Brave.

Gyarados
Intimidate
Life Orb
Adamant(Atk+ SA-)
76hp/252atk/180spd

Dragon Dance
Ice Fang
Earthquake
Waterfall

Yeah, Gyarados is once again in this RMT. Yes, that means HE's in it, too. I don't know if I should use Ice Fang or Taunt.

Ummmmmm, I get that suggestion for my Gyrados every time, don't use Taunt, if you think your opponent will try something, D-Dance sweep.

Yeah, next up is HIM.

Electivire a.k.a. HIM
Motor Drive
Expert Belt
Lonely(Atk+ Def-)
252atk/176spd/80sa

ThunderPunch
Ice Punch
Cross Chop
HP Grass

Yup. The ol' Gyarados-HIM combo. Predict, switch, boost, sweep. HP Grass is for Swampert, Rhyperior, Hippowdon, and Donphan.

Okay, most people think that a T-Punch will do less to Skarmory than a T-Bolt. That's a lie! Add the Expert Belt and its 379 attack and you've got yourself an OHKO. Replace HP Grass with EQ.

Heatran
Flash Fire
Choice Specs
Modest(SA+ Atk-)
56hp/252sa/200spd

Flamethrower
Earth Power
Dragon Pulse
HP Electric

This time, my Heatran is Specstran. The moveset variety allows it to hit 11 out of the 17 types SE.

Nothing wrong with this one, although I do think Heatran is an Uber.

Tangrowth a.k.a. Mojo
Leaf Guard/Chlorophyll (I won't be using Sunny Day on my team, so idk what to choose)
Leftovers
Impish(Def+ SA-)
252hp/288def/28spd

Sleep Powder
Leech Seed
Knock Off
Power Whip

Ah, another new member to the team. I love Mojo. Sleep Powder first, then Leech Seed, then Knock Off their item, then Power Whip. Or just Power Whip something like Swampert right off the bat. Mojo is ma Physical Wall, and it's resistance to Stone Edge is useful.

*Originally posted by Mekkah from Smogon*
Just to show how sturdy Tangrowth is: A Gyarados with 350 Attack and one Dragon Dance doesn't even 3HKO Tangrowth using Ice Fang with Leftovers factored in. In the meantime, Tangrowth will deal about 40% back with Power Whip (as long as it isn't Intimidated), making him a pretty neat Gyarados counter.

Well, I have a Physical Wall. Guess who my Special Wall is?

Weavile! That's all I have to say.

Blissey
Serene Grace
Leftovers
Bold(Def+ Atk-)
148hp/252def/108sa

Softboiled
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam

Yup. Teh pink egg. Blissey also serves as a Special attacker, since only Heatran and, to a lesser extent, Electivire use Special attacks. But it's still ma Special Wall. With Serene Grace, Thunderbolt is somewhat an offensive Thunder Wave. Not having Natural Cure sucks, though. But Blissey can recover damage from Burn/Poison and isn't technically a sweeper, so Paralysis isn't (too) big of a problem.

As for my team's weaknesses and resistances...
There is only one weakness that 2 of my Pokes are weak to. Heatran and Blissey are both weak to Fighting. Other than that, every other weakness is only held by one Poke (not counting Electivire being weak to Ground and Heatran being 4x weak. Well, technically. that does count:(). Every weakness is also covered by another Poke that is resistant or immune to that weakness. Even the non weaknesses (Normal, Psychic, Ghost, Dragon, Dark, and Steel) are resisted.

Weavile! That's all I have to say.
Please rate my team and/or give suggestions.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Edit: Nobody wants to rate it...? :crying:
Pretty good team, overal, I give it a 7.9/10, good natures and EVs and some of the movesets aern't bad either.

EDIT: That Gyra-Vire combo will trip you up- EX: Gallade Had Thunderpunch from Emerald and you never knew it, Gyara gets OHKO'd and Vire gets OHKO'd by and EQ.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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I don't think you understand my Tangrowth's survivability. A max Attack Weavile without an Attack raising item does 53%-63% to Tangrowth using Ice Punch. I'm sure even with Expert Belt it wouldn't be a OHKO. In the meantime, my Tangrowth can do 87%-100% to Weavile with Power Whip.

Even if things look dangerous, I still have my Heatran with it's 4x resist to Ice and Flamethrower.

Well, at least someone finally rated it. :)

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Edit: I see your edit now. You don't think my Electivire would outspeed Gallade, even without a Speed boost, and OHKO with his own Earthquake (or Thunderpunch)?
 
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I don't think you understand my Tangrowth's survivability. A max Attack Weavile without an Attack raising item does 53%-63% to Tangrowth using Ice Punch. I'm sure even with Expert Belt it wouldn't be a OHKO. In the meantime, my Tangrowth can do 87%-100% to Weavile with Power Whip.

Even if things look dangerous, I still have my Heatran with it's 4x resist to Ice and Flamethrower.

Well, at least someone finally rated it. :)

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Edit: I see your edit now. You don't think my Electivire would outspeed Gallade, even without a Speed boost, and OHKO with his own Earthquake (or Thunderpunch)?
what if he is a focus sash swordance sweeper. and i did tryu to rate it, but it wouldnt go throught yesterday. yeah, the gyaravire combo will trip you up. like a random pokgey with thunderpunch can kill you, or you could get stuck from a dugtrio
 

Wii4Mii 99

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what if he is a focus sash swordance sweeper. and i did tryu to rate it, but it wouldnt go throught yesterday. yeah, the gyaravire combo will trip you up. like a random pokgey with thunderpunch can kill you, or you could get stuck from a dugtrio
Well, we know every team isn't going to be perfect. Every team is going to have some glaring weakness, whether it's obvious or not.

It's not like Thunderpunch ruins me. Swampert and Electivire are immune, and Tangrowth is resistant. I'm not saying the GyaraVire combo is my main combo, either.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Edit: Thanks tshahi and Celebi for RUINING MY DREAMS.
 

mood4food77

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i think brine is the same as avalanche, and it's stabbed, use that instead on swampert

also heatran isn't uber, stats aren't good enough and it's 4x weakeness to ground stop it from becoming one

BTW, where do you get a poke trainer card...cause i want one
 

9Kplus1

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Brine is a special attack that does more damage when the opponent's HP is less than half.

Avalanche is a Physical Move that always moves last and is power doubles if the opponent hits you, combined with a few Curses that attack does pretty well.
 

MasterMatt

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not a bad team, although i would ditch tangrowth.... if sleep powder misses then you will die.... also, i thought no legendaries were allowed in some battles, if so heatran would have to go...
 

Wii4Mii 99

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not a bad team, although i would ditch tangrowth.... if sleep powder misses then you will die.... also, i thought no legendaries were allowed in some battles, if so heatran would have to go...
Heatran IS a legendary, but it isn't uber.

Well, I should probably start on my next team. And I'm not listening to Celebi anymore, either. He tried to RUIN MY DREAMS more on PMs.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

9Kplus1

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Hey, I didn't try doing that..... I just gave scenareos in which some of your strategies can be broken into pieces, which is why I don't have one, if your team goes into battle and your strategy gets crushed, that's the end for you. As for me, I just make match ups and combine it with brute strength.
 
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