im not really great, so i could use some help

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well, i usually prefer to go with my own thing, do my own movesets, and stuff, instead of doing the "standard" like everyone else. but i could really use some ideas, so here are my teams for the third and fourth gens.


THIRD GEN

Skarmory(Leftovers) EV's: 252 HP, 140 Def, 68 SD, 50 Atk
Drill Peck, Spikes, Roar, Rest

Standard Skarmory. duh.


Blaziken(Salac Berry) EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Swords Dance, Sky Uppercut, Rock Slide, Overheat

I hate endrevving, so i went with the sweeper set.



Alakazam(Salac Berry) Ev's: 252 SA, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Calm Mind, Recover, Psychic, Ice Punch

works for me. Thunderpunch could work too, but i like ice punch better



Ludicolo(Leftovers) EV's: 252 SD, 140 HP, 100 SA, 18 Def
Leech Seed, Toxic, Synthesis, Surf

Yay for annoyance


Suicune(Leftovers) Ev's: 252 HP, 160 SD, 48 Def, 50 SA
Calm Mind, Surf, Roar, Rest

eh, what can i say? this thing owns



Dragonite(Leftovers) Ev's: 252 Spd, 80 SA, 80 Atk, 90 HP
Substitute, Focus Punch, Dragon Claw, Thunderbolt

I love this set. id use flamethrower, but i have blaziken, and dont have any electric anywhere else.



well, thats the 3rd gen team. now....



FOURTH GEN


Luxray(Lum Berry) Ev's: 180 Atk, 60 Spd, 60 HP, 60 SD, 150 Def
Thunder Fang, Thunderwave, Ice Fang, Swagger/Crunch

He's kinda UU, but i like UU. the 120 base attack is really cool for an electric type, especially with the fangs. works really well for me. now i could use swagger, and go for the classic parafuse, or get some more coverage with crunch.


Infernape(Salac Berry) Ev's: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Swords Dance, Close Combat, Flare Blitz, Thunderpunch

thunderpunch use to not work well on fire types, but with the new physics, coupled with swords dance, this thing can cover water and Flying weakness very well. Swampert is still a problem though


Roserade(Petaya Berry) Ev's: 252 SA, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Growth, Leaf Storm, Sludge Bomb, Sleep Powder/Synthesis/Substitute

Roselia=utter crap, but roserade is pretty nice with the special attack. and sludge bomb being special is a plus too. cant decide on my last move though.


Swampert(Chesto Berry) Ev's: 252 HP, 129 Atk, 129 SD
Curse, Rest, EQ, Waterfall/Avalanche

Nice looking Cursepert. either waterfall for STAB, or avalanche for flyers.


Dragonite(Choice Band) Ev's: 252 ATk, 129 Spd, 129 HP
Outrage, Aqua Tail, HP Flying, EQ

i love this guy. since day 1. went with a good choice band set. aqua tail is pretty cool. outrage being physical is a plus. confusion is kind of a set back, if your opponent survives that is lol.


Blissey(Leftovers) Ev's: 252 Atk, 100 Def, 80 SD, 78 SA
Aromatherapy, Softboiled, Seismic Toss, Ice Beam

eh an old standard, but it works still. not sure of anything new and useful for blissey though.


well, there are the teams. (kinda long, i know) rate anyway youd like.

 

[fluffy]

just realized this wasnt for 4th generation lol. ignore me.

y would u be playing 2nd gen in the 1st place...

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

disgusting.

lol.

u forgot some natures, evs, but at least u got some items.

u have to learn how to differentiate, ATTACK and SPECIAL ATTACk. try redoing the whole team.

Natures wern't around in GSC.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[lowradiation8989]

Natures wern't around in GSC.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

well, i got a little confused about which generation was being mentioned as well, so don't rag on fluffy.......besides, isn't generation 2 pretty much obsolete now anyways?

 

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well, i got a little confused about which generation was being mentioned as well, so don't rag on fluffy.......besides, isn't generation 2 pretty much obsolete now anyways?

eh idc its my favorite gen anyway. i like it, so i thought i could get some help i still like to do gsc on netbattle sometimes. i can put up my 3rd gen team, but i haven't been playing 4th gen long enough to get a team together. i heard there were some differences, but i dont know much yet. any help?

 

[fluffy]

well there's the physical and special attack difference.

it used to be that rock, normal, ground, fighting, etc were physical and that water, fire, electric, etc were special. now, any type can be either physical or special.

it changed the whole metagame really. i forget the other changes. more attacks...meh

 

[mood4food77]

it helped some pokes (gyarados), it hurt some (alakazam)

 

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um... ok i think i get it. did the elemental punches become physical moves now?
and did gyarados get a physical water move now? can someone help me out on some of the moves that have been changed around?

 

[fluffy]

surf is special, but waterfall is physical.

check out serebii or pokemonmarriland to see whats physical and whats special.

 

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k ill be sure to post my team once ive got it figured out.
edit: ok i edited the first post, i've got my 3rd gen and now my 4th gen team up. PLZ PLZ PLZ PLLLLLZZZZ RATE IT i really need the help.

 

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*BUMP
anyone?

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

well, i usually prefer to go with my own thing, do my own movesets, and stuff, instead of doing the "standard" like everyone else. but i could really use some ideas, so here are my teams for the third and fourth gens.


THIRD GEN

Skarmory(Leftovers) EV's: 252 HP, 140 Def, 68 SD, 50 Atk
Drill Peck, Spikes, Roar, Rest

Standard Skarmory. duh.

EVs: 242 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
If you're using Rest, I'd give it a Chesto Berry. Roar doesn't effect Pokemon with the Soundproof ability, so give it Whirlwind.

Blaziken(Salac Berry) EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Swords Dance, Sky Uppercut, Rock Slide, Overheat

I hate endrevving, so i went with the sweeper set.

Blaziken @ Salac Berry
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Adamant / Jolly

Endure
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Sky Uppercut / Brick Break

Alakazam(Salac Berry) Ev's: 252 SA, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Calm Mind, Recover, Psychic, Ice Punch

works for me. Thunderpunch could work too, but i like ice punch better

Alakazam isn't going to survive THAT much, so don't use Recover.

Alakazam @ ...Whatever item was good back then
EVs: 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Modest / Timid

Psychic
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunderpunch

You could also stick a Calm Mind in there somewhere.

Ludicolo(Leftovers) EV's: 252 SD, 140 HP, 100 SA, 18 Def
Leech Seed, Toxic, Synthesis, Surf

Yay for annoyance

Good.

Suicune(Leftovers) Ev's: 252 HP, 160 SD, 48 Def, 50 SA
Calm Mind, Surf, Roar, Rest

eh, what can i say? this thing owns

Yeah it does.

Dragonite(Leftovers) Ev's: 252 Spd, 80 SA, 80 Atk, 90 HP
Substitute, Focus Punch, Dragon Claw, Thunderbolt

I love this set. id use flamethrower, but i have blaziken, and dont have any electric anywhere else.

I don't really know much about Draginite...

well, thats the 3rd gen team. now....



FOURTH GEN


Luxray(Lum Berry) Ev's: 180 Atk, 60 Spd, 60 HP, 60 SD, 150 Def
Thunder Fang, Thunderwave, Ice Fang, Swagger/Crunch

He's kinda UU, but i like UU. the 120 base attack is really cool for an electric type, especially with the fangs. works really well for me. now i could use swagger, and go for the classic parafuse, or get some more coverage with crunch.

Luxray @ whatever item is good for Luxray
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Adamant / Jolly

Spark / Thunder Fang
Ice Fang
Thunderwave
Crunch

Infernape(Salac Berry) Ev's: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Swords Dance, Close Combat, Flare Blitz, Thunderpunch

thunderpunch use to not work well on fire types, but with the new physics, coupled with swords dance, this thing can cover water and Flying weakness very well. Swampert is still a problem though

Good.

Roserade(Petaya Berry) Ev's: 252 SA, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Growth, Leaf Storm, Sludge Bomb, Sleep Powder/Synthesis/Substitute

Roselia=utter crap, but roserade is pretty nice with the special attack. and sludge bomb being special is a plus too. cant decide on my last move though.

Energy Ball
Sludge Bomb
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed / Substitute

Swampert(Chesto Berry) Ev's: 252 HP, 129 Atk, 129 SD
Curse, Rest, EQ, Waterfall/Avalanche

Nice looking Cursepert. either waterfall for STAB, or avalanche for flyers.

Swampert @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 129 Atk / 129 Def
Impish / Brave

Curse
Avalanche
Earthquake / Hammer Arm
Waterfall

Dragonite(Choice Band) Ev's: 252 ATk, 129 Spd, 129 HP
Outrage, Aqua Tail, HP Flying, EQ

i love this guy. since day 1. went with a good choice band set. aqua tail is pretty cool. outrage being physical is a plus. confusion is kind of a set back, if your opponent survives that is lol.

Dunno.

Blissey(Leftovers) Ev's: 252 Atk, 100 Def, 80 SD, 78 SA
Aromatherapy, Softboiled, Seismic Toss, Ice Beam

eh an old standard, but it works still. not sure of anything new and useful for blissey though.

Good.

well, there are the teams. (kinda long, i know) rate anyway youd like.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

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thx wii4mii. that helps me alot.