Ikki does not have the game, the Japanese 2CH Leak is still unconfirmed

[I.T.P]

I'm sorry for anyone that thought otherwise, but as of now I am still in Japan and in direct contact with the Japanese Pro SSBM community, and I can assure you all

Ikki does not have SSBB, and neither do any of them, I have talked to them personally and confirmed this

the so called "Leak" from 2CH is from a nobody, if Ikki did post that video on ketubato, it was probably like "hey look what I found on 2CH" or that sort of thing.


If anyone does not believe me I know these guys, I can provide pictures, but I'm sure you all remember the huge amount of info I brought from whobby 2008, so I doubt you will not believe me.

the leak is from a nobody, can be fake, can be real. we'll never know

 

[dr_awesome]

whoa, this is certainly news.

 

[~tgm_Zeej]

Finally. -_-

 

[Penguyen]

I believe you. I just want it confirmed real or fake as soon as possible..

 

[Firestorm88]

Is Ikki an alias of QueenSaki's?

 

[Shuma]

Wait, no one had deconfirmed the video? It's fake, awfully fake, why does it stop before the fight begin, why do we only see the Link pic we already saw on the dojo?

Until we see something new the vid is fake.

 

[Gerudo Warrior]

it's about time we got this straight

 

[The_Corax_King]

He says on the video that he didn't upload it...

 

[Doc Chronic]

very very interesting

 

[KirbySSB]

Wait, no one had deconfirmed the video? It's fake, awfully fake, why does it stop before the fight begin, why do we only see the Link pic we already saw on the dojo?

Gee, maybe because stage 1 of classic mode is VS LINK? check the dojo again.

 

[Tomanator33]

I say until we see something we have not seen on the Dojo and go from there. For now we cant say either way due to lock of evidence.

 

[Firestorm88]

Wait, no one had deconfirmed the video? It's fake, awfully fake, why does it stop before the fight begin, why do we only see the Link pic we already saw on the dojo?

Until we see something new the vid is fake.

I'd compare the credibility of that video to if Gideon posted a video of Brawl.

 

[S2]

Regardless of where it comes from, I still think the video/pics look legit.

But yeah, I believe you TC. So many conflicting stories are coming through about the origins of that video. It probably won't matter much in a few days anyways.

Its just so hard not to get worked up over Smash related stuff.

 

[Black/Light]

He says on the video that he didn't upload it...

Yeah, there was no reason for this thread. .. no big surprize there. He/She never claimed to have the game and said he/she got it from somewhere else.

ON THE OTHER HAND, theres some Japanese (atleast in his text) guy with a Youtube account cailming to have made the crap cell phone vid and that he will up load new ones and pics by Friday when he buys a webcam or some sh**.

And the 2ch guy isn't a "nobody". . .he is just a unknown leaker right now. Your wording is abit strong

 

[RayLewis08]

the leak is from a nobody, can be fake, can be real. we'll never know

We will never know? That is taking it to an extreme considering the game comes out in a week.

 

[I.T.P]

oh comeon, It's a figure of speech, offcourse we'll know in a week.

and as a person no one knows and has never been to any community activities, as far as the Japanese are concerned, he is nobody.

 

[Dry Bones]

its still a very realistic looking vid

 

[Pink Reaper]

Gee, maybe because stage 1 of classic mode is VS LINK? check the dojo again.

Why does everyone seem to think that Link HAS to be stage 1 in Classic. How do you know its not random like, you know, Melee >_>

 

[I.T.P]

The world you fight in is pretty much determined based on stage number. Stage 1 is based on The Legend of Zelda. Stage 3 is based on Pokémon. And each time, the characters are chosen randomly.

by sakurai.

It's not sure that the character will be link all the time, but it will probably be a zelda character, so link is not unthinkable.

and he is the one on the dojo picture = easiest to fake

 

[True Sonic]

Why does everyone seem to think that Link HAS to be stage 1 in Classic. How do you know its not random like, you know, Melee >_>

What if by classic they really mean it, meaning the same path as the original game, link, yoshi team, fox, mario brothers, and bosses like giant donkey kong, metal mario, and the fighting polygon team? Its unlikely but I think it would be awesome if they did that.(not just a random giant and metal character like in melee)

 

[DarkSpidey13]

Why does everyone seem to think that Link HAS to be stage 1 in Classic. How do you know its not random like, you know, Melee >_>

it was in the Classic Mode update on the DOJO. Level 1 is Zelda themed. so it could be Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, etc.

 

[Pink Reaper]

by sakurai.

It's not sure that the character will be link all the time, but it will probably be a zelda character, so link is not unthinkable.

and he is the one on the dojo picture = easiest to fake

lol, it actually says on the update that the opponent you fight will be based off the stage but will also be random.

Also, I like how in the fake vid, it looks kind of like the Stage 1 start screen, it was also pretty off. Like they only took the pic of Link in stead of the Dojo pic that would have been easier to fake it with.

 

[Lance87]

This same guy made a thread on Gamefaqs that was similar. I'm gonna go try and find it now.

We have no reason to believe this guy. What are the chances that he knows him? If so, why wouldn't he post pictures from the start?

His statement of "i provided whobby stuff so everyone's gonna believe anything I say" is ********. It's obvious he's using past stuff to flare up more controversy.

 

[Lance87]

Double post: but for a good reason.


This is a link to the same thread on gamefaqs.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=928518&topic=40956937

If you don't feel like going there, here's a copy/paste.

Originally posted by ITP1:

Hello, most of you won't know me cause I don't post here much. but I'm I.T.P, the manager of the israeli smash community, currently in Japan for the last 3 months.

I have brought quite a bit of info from world hobby fair 2008, and I've also participated in Japanese tournaments and Smashfests, and am in direct contact with most Japanese pros.

Ikki(most of you refer to him as gimpyfish's friend) is a respected Japanese pro, and a host of the main www.Ketubato.com site and ketubato tournament, the biggest one in Japan. He is also my friend with whom I speak quite often, and he does not have SSBB, neither does any of the known Japanese pros.

the so called "Leak" that's been going around is coming from a nobody that nobody knows, and not from Ikki - a respected player who is well known and is the host of tournaments and fests alike.

Thank you very much, I.T.P out!

btw - this has been brought into my attention by Gimpyfish himself, but he's unavailable to post ATM, his apologies to all.

This guy can easily be confirmed legit / debunked by Gimpy because according to his last statement, that's who he's getting stuff from...

You sir. Owned.

 

[I.T.P]

Sorry dear mister lance, but Gimpy and I are talking on MSN because he added me in order to ask me some stuff about the demo, and he did ask me to post that, so no I am not "Owned" it is you, little one of faith, that is "Owned".

yes I can provide a picture of Ikki and basically all japanese smashers I've met, I've made a compilation of most of those which can be found here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MNYMIFAV


and I also just talked to Ikki on MSN, he saw that video on a phone video Japanese site and thought more people should see it, so he uploaded it into youtube under his own account. he didn't expect the reaction to be "OMG the leaker is Ikki! it's real!" he's just a normal guy like everyone else...

now go download my super high quality sony DSC-H3 camera made album of japanese smash players and stick your disbelieving nose somewhere else.

 

[Lance87]

Why doesn't Gimpy post here then? That's cool if you're telling the truth. But why all the hear-say from Gimpy? Just have him post here.

 

[Big-Cat]

How exactly do you download the pictures?

As for this video, I agree that it's fake. Considering that he/she uploaded this and would probably violate his/her NDA, it's unlikely this would happen if it were the case. Not to mention that this video can be made in Flash and Photoshop.

 

[I.T.P]

you click the link and click download, then wait a couple seconds(unless you have a megaupload premium account) and the download should start.

 

[Zinfandel]

Okay. Wait - so queensaki only uploaded the vid because he found it interesting? I'm just confused about who has what, has said what and what they get credibility from. This is like some of those complex territorial disputes in Nothern Europe during the 17-1800's - people go nuts trying to survey the issue.

 

[Lance87]

Queenaski uploaded the vid that he found on a Mobile site. At least that's what the comment says on youtube.

@ITP~ Let me show you the flaw in using a picture as proof that you know someone.

This is a pic to prove Mary Kate Olsen was my roomie last year. I know her. I'm talking to her on MSN right now.

Lol. I believe the video isn't Ikki's. But I don't know what t believe about you.

 

[SuperLink9]

So many members of this board are now certain that the starter roster has been "confirmed". Why don't more peopkle realise this thread exists? It teeves me off.

Just wait a week people... then all the fakery shall be revealed for what it is

Not to mention if another character is revealed this week or next week, depending on who it is could throw off the whole thing.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

Just so people know, ITP is indeed telling the truth. I've known about this fact for quite some time now, but I never noticed people were actually claiming Ikki had the game. In fact, Ikki posted on his blog that not only is he no longer getting the game early (due to some complications), but he may not even get it on the release day.

 

[I.T.P]

and that "comment" you saw on youtube Ikki asked me earlier to help him phrase it, after I pointed out that people are thinking he has the game.

about the pictures, do you know the diffrence between the two? that my pictures have time/date stamps on them, and they're not "celebrety" pictures, it's a compilation of diffrent smash players I've met, and there's a picture of me in there too, anyone who checks that picture archive and still calls me a liar is living in denile

 

[Bacon Man11]

That vid is fake. The chance of him fighting the one character whose vs. screen is confirmed is to small. And WHY would he stop filming right there?

 

[Corax The Cold]

uhh, who are you? you are no one, you have no credability, atleast the other side made a video

 

[GaryCXJk]

A quote from another thread:

* Has about 4 air jumps
* Dedede's voice was the same as in the Japanese anime.
* I tried crawling with DeDeDe and it didn't work (ITP)
* no more arguments on his name, game says De De De. and not DeeDeeDee like people call him. (ITP)
he's a slow power type, like koopa and charizard. he's weaker than Ike, and slower than Ike, though his attacks are faster. (ITP)
* He has one of the best Up Bs i've seen, he jumps very high and it's very mobile. (ITP)
* His Forward B is very Fast and strong, very spammable, and the waddles do their job. (ITP)
* his down B is too slow and predictable. (ITP)
* his neutral B sucking is is fast, but not very far, very little damage, and only spits you out. Dedede can walk around with someone in his mouth like Kirby and he looks like his bloated fish form when he does that (ITP)
* his smash attacks are very strong, but slow. in both starting and ending lag. (ITP)
* waddle dees are better than vegtables in terms of damage and knockback. and it's one of DeDeDe's best moves. when the waddle dees are waddling around stage, they dissapear by themselves (ITP)
* His aerials are pretty slow from what I've seen, I think his Bair and Uair are pretty quick though. his smashes are monstrously strong, better than bowsers. but Ike's are stronger than that. he also survives quite a lot, and has a huge recovery. (ITP)
* his dash is pretty good, most of his Tilts and aerials come fast but are laggy, (ITP)
* his super jump has good priority (ITP)
* the general feeling was cool, Fsmash is a killer. (ITP)
* he has after lag on alot of his moves, but they startup fast except the smashes. which is logical, cause they're his koers. his smashes have start up lags pretty big, not as big as Ike's though. (ITP)
* Dedede's down B is a charge-do move, and it's slow but ultra powerfull, from what I saw it sucked, might work as a setup or edgeguard though, we can't say from now. (ITP)
* his final smash makes him invincible(I fought it, not got it), but the Waddle Dees/Doos /Gordos that appear attack one by one like pit's FS, not together. and they're improved versions of their normal counterparts, at least the Dees.
* DeDeDe can suck up the Waddle Dees he throws. (SP)

Okay, which acronym do we see? ITP.

So go screw yourself.

Really, all he says is that Ikki doesn't own the game. He doesn't say the vids are fake, he only states a fact.

 

[I.T.P]

uhh, who are you? you are no one, you have no credability, atleast the other side made a video

Did you even read what I said? I never said the video is a fake, just that Ikki didn't make it, and as such, it has 0 credibality, just like it had before people started saying that Ikki is the one with the game.

 

[Anth0ny]

Just so people know, ITP is indeed telling the truth. I've known about this fact for quite some time now, but I never noticed people were actually claiming Ikki had the game. In fact, Ikki posted on his blog that not only is he no longer getting the game early (due to some complications), but he may not even get it on the release day.

Aw crap. Now we need someone else to leak everything

 

[Flaminglink]

LEAK=REAL

jokes lead could be real but we will never know until gameplay videos are posted in a new level. or a new character is seen playing that hasnt appeared at an event

 

[ace_skoot]

My head hurts ;( from all these leaks and debunks think i'm just going to log off until next week when all will be confirmed. I'm in euro-land anyway not like i'll be playing anytime soon