Idea - Blue CDs

[D-idara]

Yeah...rare Blue CDs that don't contain normal music, but music from other series that fits the stage. This could make the music collection on the game be much more varied with content and give chances to songs that don't fit on their respective series' stages! There's quite a lot of those, if you ask me!

Some possible Blue CDs:
Lava Mountain Zone Act 3 - Sonic Lost World... for Pyrosphere.
Pokemon Amie (Puzzle) - Pokemon XY ...for Living Room (Nintendogs)
Kalimari Desert - Mario Kart 64/7 ...for Spirit Train.

 

[Zzuxon]

I like this idea a lot.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

This is pretty awesome. There are so many songs from the F-Zero stage that I wish would play on Battlefield. Not to mention it would make the mad dash for the CD that much more intense.

 

[Stompman]

While your idea would be cool, I'd rather just have the ability to assign whatever song to whatever stage I want. That way, if there is a stage with truly epic music, but is not playable, even for casual players like myself (Rumble Falls, for example), then we're not out of luck with regards to those songs. But, if that's not a possibility, I'd take Blue discs!

 

[Xermo]

Don't really see how this would differ from Brawl, considering eventually when all the CDs are collected (brawl) some stages have a song slot with music from a different franchise. (Norfair playing Golden Sun, Summit playing Clu Clu land, Luigi's Mansion playing Tetris, etc.)
Wouldn't this essentially work out the same way? Collecting every blue CD until all of the predetermined stage songs are complete?

 

[Chandeelure]

While your idea would be cool, I'd rather just have the ability to assign whatever song to whatever stage I want. That way, if there is a stage with truly epic music, but is not playable, even for casual players like myself (Rumble Falls, for example), then we're not out of luck with regards to those songs. But, if that's not a possibility, I'd take Blue discs!

When something like that happens, I create a flat stage in the stage builder with the cool music XD
Well, that was before Project M , Brawl Plus and other hacks.

 

[Tornado_Man]

I like this idea.

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

Yeah, I can see certain songs from other franchises that would serve a better fit on some stages if carried over to another. Hell, some franchises have arranges of songs which have crossed over from another (F-Zero GX Rainbow Road comes to mind). Though originally, I thought these blue CDs would have tracks from other franchises or even other 3rd party tunes (I would love to hear Spring Valley or Suburban Museum from NiGHTS into Dreams on Windy Hill Zone!)

Otherwise, I feel that this has the potential for some awkward playlist placements and should not be a feature that is invasive. Which of course depends on how these function. I think that there should be a set amount of blue CDs to unlock, being that you can take a song in the playlist for one stage and 'cut & paste' it into another. You do this by labeling the track with a blue CD instead of a standard one. When you remove the blue CD from a track, it goes back to its default franchise.

 

[C.Olimar788]

Barring the ideal circumstance of just having every song available to be set on every stage, I really hope they implement something like this. Often some of the best music from a franchise doesn't necessarily fit onto a stage from that franchise, and this would allow those types of songs to be emphasized and enjoyed in a context that fits them. Plus, I'm just a fan of aesthetic theming instead of franchise theming in general.

 

[Vintage Creep]

LOL, could work. But why blue?

 

[D-idara]

While your idea would be cool, I'd rather just have the ability to assign whatever song to whatever stage I want. That way, if there is a stage with truly epic music, but is not playable, even for casual players like myself (Rumble Falls, for example), then we're not out of luck with regards to those songs. But, if that's not a possibility, I'd take Blue discs!

I think this would take away some of the magic from the My Music feature...

Yeah, I can see certain songs from other franchises that would serve a better fit on some stages if carried over to another. Hell, some franchises have arranges of songs which have crossed over from another (F-Zero GX Rainbow Road comes to mind). Though originally, I thought these blue CDs would have tracks from other franchises or even other 3rd party tunes (I would love to hear Spring Valley or Suburban Museum from NiGHTS into Dreams on Windy Hill Zone!)

Otherwise, I feel that this has the potential for some awkward playlist placements and should not be a feature that is invasive. Which of course depends on how these function. I think that there should be a set amount of blue CDs to unlock, being that you can take a song in the playlist for one stage and 'cut & paste' it into another. You do this by labeling the track with a blue CD instead of a standard one. When you remove the blue CD from a track, it goes back to its default franchise.

I don't really see how the placements would be awkward, after all, the songs would be songs that fit the stage theme but are from another franchise, for example...let's take this Metroid song and put it on Gardeon Of Hope.
Brinstar, Overgrown With Vegetation - Super Metroid...for Garden Of Hope.

The song fits, we could have a maximum of two blue CDs per stage to keep the list from being too cluttered with other franchises' songs.

Don't really see how this would differ from Brawl, considering eventually when all the CDs are collected (brawl) some stages have a song slot with music from a different franchise. (Norfair playing Golden Sun, Summit playing Clu Clu land, Luigi's Mansion playing Tetris, etc.)
Wouldn't this essentially work out the same way? Collecting every blue CD until all of the predetermined stage songs are complete?

The thing's that Brawl only had cross-franchise songs for franchises that weren't represented, here I'm talking about franchises that are represented, but there are some great, memorable songs from them that don't fit their stages! (Most industrial-themed Sonic level music falls here).

Also...blue because of Blu-Rays...I dunno, they're easily recognizable :D

 

[Vintage Creep]

Blu-rays should be video though. You could unlock random brief cutscenes, like one per character? Lol.

I agree that the My Music feature is perfect and the only thing in which it can be better is quantity. I remember being pissed that Brawl didn't have that feature like in Excite Truck which made you play music you want, but it was stupid. Brawl's OST is simply incredible, by far the best thing in the game. Forever on my iPod.

Even though some music fit very well in a different franchise's stage (like Tetris which for some reason sounds really cool in Luigi's Mansion), having the possibility of doing everything random would probably ruin the "magic", yes. I prefer OP's idea of having a few songs featuring as a "guest" in other stages, if it's not overplayed.

What I hope happens is the possibility of putting more music choices in the Editor. The Editor was pretty bad by itself, but also made possible to put only one song out of the 200+ available. Such a waste.

 

[Superyoshiom]

I'm into this idea

 

[Morbi]

I honestly hate it when people think of good ideas like this, as it probably wont happen.

I really do like the idea, I just wish Sakurai was fluent in English and checked these boards daily. Haha.

 

[Moon Monkey]

This is what i want for the rainbow road or f-zero stage:

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I'd prefer it more if you actually had the option to manually choose what background music you want to hear for a Group mode match.

 

[D-idara]

I'd prefer it more if you actually had the option to manually choose what background music you want to hear for a Group mode match.

That's a thing, I also think that one of the features added to My Music should be the abiltity to choose your song right after you choose the stage, so you don't have to get them all randomized...sometimes I'm in the mood for Green Hill Zone, but sometimes I'm the mood for Open Your Heart, and those are very different moods :v

 

[fenyx4]

That blue...it's just so mesmerizing! XD

Yeah...rare Blue CDs that don't contain normal music, but music from other series that fits the stage. This could make the music collection on the game be much more varied with content and give chances to songs that don't fit on their respective series' stages! There's quite a lot of those, if you ask me!

Some possible Blue CDs:
Lava Mountain Zone Act 3 - Sonic Lost World... for Pyrosphere.
Pokemon Amie (Puzzle) - Pokemon XY ...for Living Room (Nintendogs)
Kalimari Desert - Mario Kart 64/7 ...for Spirit Train.

While your idea would be cool, I'd rather just have the ability to assign whatever song to whatever stage I want. That way, if there is a stage with truly epic music, but is not playable, even for casual players like myself (Rumble Falls, for example), then we're not out of luck with regards to those songs. But, if that's not a possibility, I'd take Blue discs!

As others have stated, I would rather just have the ability of the player assigning whatever song he/she wants (from whichever Universe) to the "playlist" of each stage. In my opinion, a maximum of up to eight songs for each stage would be ideal (as this was apparently the limit in Super Smash Bros. Brawl), each song with its own random slider. While the idea of collecting CDs makes sense, I kind of want to do away with the "collecting random CDs mechanic" as sometimes it can just be un-fun collecting all of them, mindlessly up-tilting Sandbag all the day long... (admittedly, all that work I invested in trying to unlock "Title (Kid Icarus" and "Battle Scene/Final Boss (Golden Sun)" in Brawl was worth it! ).
The randomization doesn't help factors; I honestly don't know what I would've done if we weren't able to make CD Factories with Brawl's Stage Builder...it's basically "hit Sandbag a lot of times (or wait for Mew/Celebi/Jirachi to appear?)" and hope that you get a CD (let alone actually getting to the CD in time before it disappears - also, it's worse if you're collecting CDs solo since there's a greater chance of a computer player taking them instead). If the CDs had concrete/definite goals (such as the Challenges, instead of having to wait an unspecified amount of time for a CD to appear), or you were allowed to pick which ones you got to unlock (for instance, 10 Group matches earns you the chance of picking 2 specific CDs that you want to unlock), I'd be more supporting of the mechanic.

Don't really see how this would differ from Brawl, considering eventually when all the CDs are collected (brawl) some stages have a song slot with music from a different franchise. (Norfair playing Golden Sun, Summit playing Clu Clu land, Luigi's Mansion playing Tetris, etc.)
Wouldn't this essentially work out the same way? Collecting every blue CD until all of the predetermined stage songs are complete?

This.

Barring the ideal circumstance of just having every song available to be set on every stage, I really hope they implement something like this. Often some of the best music from a franchise doesn't necessarily fit onto a stage from that franchise, and this would allow those types of songs to be emphasized and enjoyed in a context that fits them. Plus, I'm just a fan of aesthetic theming instead of franchise theming in general.

I think this would take away some of the magic from the My Music feature...


I don't really see how the placements would be awkward, after all, the songs would be songs that fit the stage theme but are from another franchise, for example...let's take this Metroid song and put it on Gardeon Of Hope.
Brinstar, Overgrown With Vegetation - Super Metroid...for Garden Of Hope.

The song fits, we could have a maximum of two blue CDs per stage to keep the list from being too cluttered with other franchises' songs.

The thing's that Brawl only had cross-franchise songs for franchises that weren't represented, here I'm talking about franchises that are represented, but there are some great, memorable songs from them that don't fit their stages! (Most industrial-themed Sonic level music falls here).

Also...blue because of Blu-Rays...I dunno, they're easily recognizable :D

Regarding placement, the concept of "what song fits on each stage" is (highly?) subjective, and I doubt that all players will agree completely with whatever predetermined playlist the developers choose for each stage, even with "cross-franchise songs" being used.
In my case, many stages in Brawl are set to only play one song, particularly because I disagree with some of the playlist choices (for example, "Meta Knight's Revenge" is the only song I play on the Battleship Halberd stage, simply because all the other song choices seem jarring with the stage visuals in my opinion. If there had been another Kirby stage that had "Meta Knight's Revenge" as an exclusive My Music track, I'd be irritated with the song choices for Halberd) - as a result, many songs go unplayed on certain stages (diminishing the "magic" of the My Music feature) when I could potentially put some songs to better use on other stages. I tend to use the songs that would play on each stage if each stage was only allowed one song (like in Super Smash Bros. 64), like how "Green Hill Zone" would probably be the definitive track for the Green Hill Zone, so the "multiple songs per stage" deal with My Music doesn't really hold much value for me.
Tl;dr - In essence, I feel more people would be satisfied if there were unrestricted song assignment in My Music. If the developers wish to impose a "playlist" of their own, they can have their choices serve as the default playlist, with the player being allowed to freely replace all the song choices at will.

I agree with the "songs from other represented franchises should be allowed on other stages" idea, though.

I'd prefer it more if you actually had the option to manually choose what background music you want to hear for a Group mode match.

That's a thing, I also think that one of the features added to My Music should be the abiltity to choose your song right after you choose the stage, so you don't have to get them all randomized...sometimes I'm in the mood for Green Hill Zone, but sometimes I'm the mood for Open Your Heart, and those are very different moods :v

Now this I definitely agree with, especially so you don't have to "rely" on the My Music song randomizer hopefully picking the alternate song that you want to play when you're in a certain mood. XD
Maybe there could be an option so that the player can set the game to either "randomly pick a song from this stage's assigned playlist in My Music" or "allow the player to manually pick what song plays before a match on this stage from this stage's assigned playlist in My Music", because I imagine some people may be slightly put off by having to manually select songs before every match. Again, although it would be nice to allow the player to comb through the game's entire music library prior to each match (because there's probably going to be that one player who wants to manually pick from 1/258+ songs in the Sound Test before every match), I'd recommend that a little "sub-menu" (containing the aforementioned assigned playlist of 8 songs, preferably to minimize screen clutter - essentially the same thing as your "Top 8 Songs for This Stage") pop up for convenience.

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

Now this I definitely agree with, especially so you don't have to "rely" on the My Music song randomizer hopefully picking the alternate song that you want to play when you're in a certain mood. XD
Maybe there could be an option so that the player can set the game to either "randomly pick a song from this stage's assigned playlist in My Music" or "allow the player to manually pick what song plays before a match on this stage from this stage's assigned playlist in My Music", because I imagine some people may be slightly put off by having to manually select songs before every match. Again, although it would be nice to allow the player to comb through the game's entire music library prior to each match (because there's probably going to be that one player who wants to manually pick from 1/258+ songs in the Sound Test before every match), I'd recommend that a little "sub-menu" (containing the aforementioned assigned playlist of 8 songs, preferably to minimize screen clutter - essentially the same thing as your "Top 8 Songs for This Stage") pop up for convenience.

This. Especially as a sub-menu within the stage select for casual convenience.

I don't really see how the placements would be awkward, after all, the songs would be songs that fit the stage theme but are from another franchise, for example...let's take this Metroid song and put it on Gardeon Of Hope.
Brinstar, Overgrown With Vegetation - Super Metroid...for Garden Of Hope.

The song fits, we could have a maximum of two blue CDs per stage to keep the list from being too cluttered with other franchises' songs.

The thing's that Brawl only had cross-franchise songs for franchises that weren't represented, here I'm talking about franchises that are represented, but there are some great, memorable songs from them that don't fit their stages! (Most industrial-themed Sonic level music falls here).

By 'awkward', I mean that there's a potential for players to include tracks for stages that do not fit. I suppose that's subjective and up to the discretion of the player. But it also ruins a bit of immersion for me if there's one stage cluttered with cross-franchise tracks, excluding any music from the universe for the said stage. This is especially true for iconic stages that have an iconic track to match. However, I suppose this argument would be negated with a blue CD limit per stage, track franchise defaults, and a music track sub-menu via stage select.

 

[D-idara]

This. Especially as a sub-menu within the stage select for casual convenience.



By 'awkward', I mean that there's a potential for players to include tracks for stages that do not fit. I suppose that's subjective and up to the discretion of the player. But it also ruins a bit of immersion for me if there's one stage cluttered with cross-franchise tracks, excluding any music from the universe for the said stage. This is especially true for iconic stages that have an iconic track to match. However, I suppose this argument would be negated with a blue CD limit per stage, track franchise defaults, and a music track sub-menu via stage select.

No, no, Blue CDs are not customizable, Blue CDs are CDs that specifically contain tracks from other games.

And...fenyx...what I got from your post is that you don't really like My Music :/ Well My Music is needed because one song per-stage just doesn't cut it. I love Green Hill Zone, but Emerald Hill holds more emotional value for me, for example, and Open Your Heart's amazing and the theme to one of the coolest games ever, and Live and Learn...and dat' Angel Island Modern remix! You can't expect 99% of the players to be satisfied with one song...

And for the Halberd thing...that stage has both 02, Marx, and a metal version of Gourmet Race that fit it quite well, and I couldn't live without Butter Buildings in my life so... :/

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

Then what are you talking about by putting songs like the three listed in the OP as customizable? Shouldn't those belong to their respective franchises and have the ability to be moved? That makes more sense to me. :/

 

[D-idara]

Then what are you talking about by putting songs like the three listed in the OP as customizable? Shouldn't those belong to their respective franchises and have the ability to be moved? That makes more sense to me. :/

I never said they were customizable...and that last thing you said makes no sense, Lava Mountain doesn't fit at all on Windy Hill, Pokemon Amie's too casual and carefree to be on a Pokemon stage and Kalimari Desert certainly doesn't go well with Rainbow Road...I made this thingie here because those songs DON'T fit on their respective series' stage but still deserve to be in the game :0

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

Well, we just have different perspectives on this subject then. I can see what you're saying right here:

I made this thingie here because those songs DON'T fit on their respective series' stage but still deserve to be in the game :0

If it has to be that way, then let's hope they don't go overboard. Whatever songs they touch will be subjective. >.>

 

[CardiganBoy]

I just want fricking Lower Norfair/Magmoor Caverns on Pyrosphere!

 

[fenyx4]

No, no, Blue CDs are not customizable, Blue CDs are CDs that specifically contain tracks from other games.

And...fenyx...what I got from your post is that you don't really like My Music :/ Well My Music is needed because one song per-stage just doesn't cut it. I love Green Hill Zone, but Emerald Hill holds more emotional value for me, for example, and Open Your Heart's amazing and the theme to one of the coolest games ever, and Live and Learn...and dat' Angel Island Modern remix! You can't expect 99% of the players to be satisfied with one song...

And for the Halberd thing...that stage has both 02, Marx, and a metal version of Gourmet Race that fit it quite well, and I couldn't live without Butter Buildings in my life so... :/

Hmm...I guess what I mean is, the thing I like about My Music is its freedom - that it affords the players with more music options. You can (usually) have as few or as many songs as you want randomly play on any given stage - the only thing holding you back is the group of songs available for each given stage, most of which will likely be from a given stage's own Universe (aside from those "cross-franchise" exceptions present, like the Golden Sun track on the Metroid-based Norfair stage). As for Halberd, my point was that if Halberd only had "0^2 Battle", "Vs. Marx", and "Gourmet Race" (the metal version from Brawl) and did not have "Meta Knight's Revenge" at all, I wouldn't be happy with the stage's music no matter which song was randomly picked before a given match. While they are very good remixes, "0^2 Battle", "Vs. Marx", and "Gourmet Race" do not fit Halberd's aesthetics at all in my opinion (primarily because their sounds/composition/style don't fit the stage for me, and secondarily because, from title alone, at least 2 of those songs have nothing to do with Meta Knight or his ship), which differs from your own opinion of whether those songs fit the stage.

Just as "99% of players" may not be satisfied with "one song per stage", some players may not be satisfied with "one 'group of songs' per stage". What's the point of having 8 or so songs on a stage if I don't like any of them, yet another stage or Universe has an exclusive track that I do like? My point was that instead of just having a few pieces of cross-franchise music (which was already done in Brawl), why not enhance My Music and allow the player(s) to:
1. Play as few or as many songs as each stage can support (preferably more than 1 song for Custom Stages, for those who want it)
2. Play songs from the same Universe (such as Pokemon songs on a Pokemon stage, having precedent since SSB64) or from a different universe entirely (such as Pokemon songs on a Sonic stage, having a little precedent from Brawl).

This way, more people can get what they want. D-idara, you can have your "02, Marx, and Gourmet Race" and I can have my "Meta Knight's Revenge" (all on the Halberd stage).

I never said they were customizable...and that last thing you said makes no sense, Lava Mountain doesn't fit at all on Windy Hill, Pokemon Amie's too casual and carefree to be on a Pokemon stage and Kalimari Desert certainly doesn't go well with Rainbow Road...I made this thingie here because those songs DON'T fit on their respective series' stage but still deserve to be in the game :0

But those songs "not fitting" are your own opinion; there may be some boy or girl out there who would love to play "Pokemon Amie" on a Pokemon stage (and Pokemon Stadium 2, arguably a "battle-oriented" stage has the rather care-free (IMO) "Road to Viridian City" and "Pokemon Center", so it's not like peaceful/care-free songs can't go on Pokemon stages, should you choose to interpret the aforementioned songs as "peaceful/carefree") or "Lava Mountain" on the Windy Hill Zone stage. And who knows, the developers might just put "Kalimari Desert" as a music option for Rainbow Road just because they can. Even though it's a cross-franchise song, I don't particularly think that "Tunnel Scene (X)", as amazing as I think it is, fits the Lylat Cruise stage, but I still want to use it on some stage (preferably one based on an area in the X game that it comes from). Instead of having just "X stage having (exclusive cross-franchise song Y)", why not have "(exclusive cross-franchise song Y) play on any stage in the game" (because the stages that you and I think a given song should be on may differ).

The developers have already done the "cross-franchise song" thing in Brawl (although only with songs whose Universes don't have stages of their own. ROB Universe's "Gyromite" technically is allowed on the Super Mario Universe's Mario Bros. stage, although it seems that that instance is because ROB has no home stage in Brawl and "Gyromite" is technically in the "Nintendo" Universe rather than the "ROB" Universe); it seems that the original post in this thread merely suggests a visual indicator for whenever you collect a "cross-franchise song", something that kind of doesn't matter IMO since CDs are (mostly) random anyway, and I likely won't care about the song's "cross-franchise" status if it doesn't even fit the stage it's restricted to. The other leap from this idea is mainly "let Stage A have a particular song from Universe B, despite Universe B already having a stage of its own" (which is what I think is what the OP's suggestion essentially manifests as, correct me if I'm wrong), and if you're going to do that, you might as well remove all restrictions regarding "what song can be played on what stage."

I hope I made my viewpoint clearer! >.<

 

[PixelPasta]

Hmm... this idea has some merit.
However, I think it should be used sparingly. It should mostly be reserved for stages which don't have much source material to pull from.

Some examples that I'd like (using new stages, and some from Brawl):
WarioWare Inc: Remix 10 (Rhythm Heaven Fever)
Dr. Wily's Fortress: Main Theme (Ghosts 'n Goblins)
Windy Hill Zone: Main Theme (Alex Kidd)
Nintendogs: Title Theme (Chibi Robo)
Wii Fit Gym: Title Theme (Wii Sports)

 

[D-idara]

Hmm... this idea has some merit.
However, I think it should be used sparingly. It should mostly be reserved for stages which don't have much source material to pull from.

Some examples that I'd like (using new stages, and some from Brawl):
WarioWare Inc: Remix 10 (Rhythm Heaven Fever)
Dr. Wily's Fortress: Main Theme (Ghosts 'n Goblins)
Windy Hill Zone: Main Theme (Alex Kidd)
Nintendogs: Title Theme (Chibi Robo)
Wii Fit Gym: Title Theme (Wii Sports)

That's why they are blue CDs, these songs are not meant to replace any of the franchise-exclusive playlists, they're more like little bonuses!
And seriously, there would be so muh magic and charm lost if you could just pick any song for any stage...
And Lava Mountain certainly doesn't fit on Windy Hill Zone, it's an industrial factory-esque place filled with lava...sound similar?

I'd also like more people to post their ideas for Blue CDs! :D It's just fun to imagine cross-franchise songs.
Apotos ~ Day - Sonic Unleashed...for Smashtown
Space Pirate Ship (Route B) - Kid Icarus Uprising...for Star Fox Stage/Metroid Prime Stage (Only if the Wii U Kid Icarus stage isn't Aurum Islands or SPS)
Piranha Creeper Creek - Super Mario 3D World...for Garden of Hope or DK Stage.

Also...this song needs to be in the game somehow, I don't care how!

And...PixelPasta, don't you think Ghosts 'n Goblins' Main Theme would be a much better fit for a Luigi's Mansion stage? It's incredibly iconic for the horror genre.

Also, the criteria for making a song fit can be narrowed down to the area where the song plays being similar to the stage in question, as I said with Garden Of Hope (Distant alien planet overgrown with vegetation and wildlife) and Pyrosphere (Industrial zone filled with lava and reddish metal platforms)

 

[PixelPasta]

That's why they are blue CDs, these songs are not meant to replace any of the franchise-exclusive playlists, they're more like little bonuses!
And seriously, there would be so muh magic and charm lost if you could just pick any song for any stage...
And Lava Mountain certainly doesn't fit on Windy Hill Zone, it's an industrial factory-esque place filled with lava...sound similar?

I'd also like more people to post their ideas for Blue CDs! :D It's just fun to imagine cross-franchise songs.
Apotos ~ Day - Sonic Unleashed...for Smashtown
Space Pirate Ship (Route B) - Kid Icarus Uprising...for Star Fox Stage/Metroid Prime Stage (Only if the Wii U Kid Icarus stage isn't Aurum Islands or SPS)
Piranha Creeper Creek - Super Mario 3D World...for Garden of Hope or DK Stage.

Also...this song needs to be in the game somehow, I don't care how!

And...PixelPasta, don't you think Ghosts 'n Goblins' Main Theme would be a much better fit for a Luigi's Mansion stage? It's incredibly iconic for the horror genre.

Also, the criteria for making a song fit can be narrowed down to the area where the song plays being similar to the stage in question, as I said with Garden Of Hope (Distant alien planet overgrown with vegetation and wildlife) and Pyrosphere (Industrial zone filled with lava and reddish metal platforms)

I agree with you 100% about the loss of magic and charm. I love the fact that each stage has its own exclusive setlist... it gives it so much personality.

I hear what you are saying about Luigi's mansion... but personally, I feel as if having a song from Capcom game on a stage from a Nintendo game would be strange. I purposefully chose Ghosts 'n Goblins for Wily's Castle simply because I feel that the third party stages should use music from other games by its respective developer.

I do like this idea... but I just don't if I like it when it comes to having Mario songs on a Pikmin stage, for example... those ones feel like a stretch to me. If they were to do like that, I would unfortunately set the probability slider to zero. As much as these songs fit the general theme of the stage, having Mario music on anything but a Mario stage still doesn't 'fit', or at least by my standards.

But besides Ghosts 'n Goblins, did you like my other combination ideas?

 

[D-idara]

I agree with you 100% about the loss of magic and charm. I love the fact that each stage has its own exclusive setlist... it gives it so much personality.

I hear what you are saying about Luigi's mansion... but personally, I feel as if having a song from Capcom game on a stage from a Nintendo game would be strange. I purposefully chose Ghosts 'n Goblins for Wily's Castle simply because I feel that the third party stages should use music from other games by its respective developer.

I do like this idea... but I just don't if I like it when it comes to having Mario songs on a Pikmin stage, for example... those ones feel like a stretch to me. If they were to do like that, I would unfortunately set the probability slider to zero. As much as these songs fit the general theme of the stage, having Mario music on anything but a Mario stage still doesn't 'fit', or at least by my standards.

But besides Ghosts 'n Goblins, did you like my other combination ideas?

Hmmm...but the whole reason for this is to destroy franchise limitations :s I do think the Jungle Theme's a bit of a stretch on Garden Of Hope, maybe on a darker, deeper-jungle DKC stage...and I did like your choices, they're just not exactly what a Blue CD means, representation of unrepresented franchises should happen through normal CDs, the blue CDs are supposed to be the 'guest' songs from franchises that have stages where the song doesn't fit.

Also, I've never been one of the people who alienates third-parties from the rest of the game, Megaman and Sonic are there for a reason, and that reason is that they're Nintendo characters at their very core. I personally think the main theme of Ghosts 'N Goblins is too iconic to the horror genre to not have it on Luigi's Mansion. Blue CDs are supposed to be things like Sonic songs on a Mario stage, Mario songs on a Zelda stage, Metroid songs on a...Yoshi stage? Kid of a straight-out musical crossover.

For example, the Apotos ~Day~ for Smashville fits the mood of the stage perfectly and it's a nice song that blends in well with the Animal Crossing tunes despite being a Sonic song, that's kinda what I'm looking for with Blue CDs. I don't see why songs of a franchise should be restricted to that franchise's stage, that defeats the purpose of a crossover.

 

[Violenceman]

Something like

Colosso Battle Theme - Golden Sun ...for Arena Ferox
Overworld (Prep Theme) - Dillon's Rolling Western ...for Gerudo Valley
Sky Chase Zone - Sonic the Hedgehog 2 ...for Pilotwings Stage
Heatman Stage - Mega Man 2 ...for Pyrosphere

 

[D-idara]

Something like

Colosso Battle Theme - Golden Sun ...for Arena Ferox
Overworld (Prep Theme) - Dillon's Rolling Western ...for Gerudo Valley
Sky Chase Zone - Sonic the Hedgehog 2 ...for Pilotwings Stage
Heatman Stage - Mega Man 2 ...for Pyrosphere

Like that :v Although i want playable Dillon :v And Sky Chase...so relaxing -w-

 

[Crap-Zapper]

I love this Idea and support it 100%

 

[Frostwraith]

To be fair, the concept of fitting a stage is highly subjective.

Cross franchise songs is something that has been done before, but only for franchises with no stage, which is something I like and should stay as is. However, if there's a stage from a certain series, all songs from said series should be on that stage (Mario songs on Mario stages, Pokémon songs on Pokémon stages and so on...). Now, if there's a smaller franchise that has no stage, but still gets a song, I'm fine with it being on another stage, as it still serves as representation.

 

[Spire]

This is a unique idea, and a refresher from the endless character and stage discussion. Considering Wii U cases are blue, this could befit the Nintendo aesthetic. Blue has a certain specialness to it, particularly when compared to a more standard gold CD. Orange/Blue dichotomy at play.

 

[Pikmin1211]

*Gasps*
Blu Ray in smash4

 

[D-idara]

To be fair, the concept of fitting a stage is highly subjective.

Cross franchise songs is something that has been done before, but only for franchises with no stage, which is something I like and should stay as is. However, if there's a stage from a certain series, all songs from said series should be on that stage (Mario songs on Mario stages, Pokémon songs on Pokémon stages and so on...). Now, if there's a smaller franchise that has no stage, but still gets a song, I'm fine with it being on another stage, as it still serves as representation.

What about great songs that don't fit on their franchises' stages...? And fitting's not always subjective, Scrap Brain doesn't fit on Green Hill Zone, Route 209 doesn't fit on Spear Pillar, but they're still great songs, Route 209 would've been great on a stage like Skyworld, and Scrap Brain would've been better off on something like Frigate Orpheon or something.

There are many songs from already-represented series that fit other stages much better, for example, the Sprawling Savannah theme wouldn't fit on a Mario stage if Mushroomy Kingdom doesn't come back, and I'd rather have that song where it fits than shove it on the Mario stage just because "It's a Mario song so it should be on a Mario stage", that greatly limits the developer's creativity and ability to make interesting combinations.

More Blue CD ideas!
Phendrana Drifts - Metroid Prime...for Ice Climbers Stage.
Snow Mountain - Super Mario 64...for Ice Climbers Stage.
Mystic Mansion - Sonic Heroes...for Luigi's Mansion. (Yeah, this should totally go on Windy Hill not)

 

[Frostwraith]

What about great songs that don't fit on their franchises' stages...? And fitting's not always subjective, Scrap Brain doesn't fit on Green Hill Zone, Route 209 doesn't fit on Spear Pillar, but they're still great songs, Route 209 would've been great on a stage like Skyworld, and Scrap Brain would've been better off on something like Frigate Orpheon or something.

There are many songs from already-represented series that fit other stages much better, for example, the Sprawling Savannah theme wouldn't fit on a Mario stage if Mushroomy Kingdom doesn't come back, and I'd rather have that song where it fits than shove it on the Mario stage just because "It's a Mario song so it should be on a Mario stage", that greatly limits the developer's creativity and ability to make interesting combinations.

I understand your point, but I still disagree. Simple as that.

By your logic, Gerudo Valley would fit Mushroomy Kingdom better because both are desert areas, yes? That is your point, right? However, I see it better on a Zelda-themed stage. Gerudo Valley actually fits Pirate Ship nicely.

I understand where are you coming from with this thread, but I think that if a series already represented by a stage has songs, the songs should be on the stage from the same series. It's like the Classic or All-Star modes where characters from the Mario series appear on Mario stages, even if that means Bowser showing up on Rainbow Ride or Delfino Plaza, when perhaps a stage filled with lava would fit him better. Likewise, songs also have a "home stage" so to speak.

Well, guess we'll have to agree to disagree. You know what is Sakurai's point of view, right? I'll leave this quote, which makes it quite clear:

The battle stages of Super Smash Bros. Brawl feature a diverse line-up of game worlds. For example, there are stages based on the Mario universe.
Basically, there is only one song that plays on each stage. But even among the myriad songs of the Mario universe, people probably have different favourites.
Plus, while there may be people who stepped into the Mario universe in the original Nintendo Entertainment System days, surely there are some who first experienced Mario on the Nintendo DS.
With that in mind, I think it’s a bit of a waste to limit that whole universe to just one song.

For him, the songs represent the universe of the stage's origin. That means, if a stage is from the Mario series, it will have songs from the Mario series. Smaller series that don't have stages have their songs scattered through the stages.

 

[D-idara]

I understand your point, but I still disagree. Simple as that.

By your logic, Gerudo Valley would fit Mushroomy Kingdom better because both are desert areas, yes? That is your point, right? However, I see it better on a Zelda-themed stage. Gerudo Valley actually fits Pirate Ship nicely.

I understand where are you coming from with this thread, but I think that if a series already represented by a stage has songs, the songs should be on the stage from the same series. It's like the Classic or All-Star modes where characters from the Mario series appear on Mario stages, even if that means Bowser showing up on Rainbow Ride or Delfino Plaza, when perhaps a stage filled with lava would fit him better. Likewise, songs also have a "home stage" so to speak.

Well, guess we'll have to agree to disagree. You know what is Sakurai's point of view, right? I'll leave this quote, which makes it quite clear:

For him, the songs represent the universe of the stage's origin. That means, if a stage is from the Mario series, it will have songs from the Mario series. Smaller series that don't have stages have their songs scattered through the stages.

No, because Gerudo Valley DOES fit on Pirate Ship :/ Another example of that is Jib Jig from Donkey Kong Country 2, if we get no Gangplank Galleon stage, then Pirate Ship would be the perfect place to have that song...

And this is why those are blue CDs, special things...they're supposed to be songs from other franchises that don't fit their respective stages, and that's their charm, you're not gonna put Brinstar - Overgrown with Vegetation on Pyrosphere, that's just dumb.

 

[SKM_NeoN]

I don't want to gather CDs in my sandbag conveyor belt factory again, but that's just me.

 

[Frostwraith]

No, because Gerudo Valley DOES fit on Pirate Ship :/ Another example of that is Jib Jig from Donkey Kong Country 2, if we get no Gangplank Galleon stage, then Pirate Ship would be the perfect place to have that song...

And this is why those are blue CDs, special things...they're supposed to be songs from other franchises that don't fit their respective stages, and that's their charm, you're not gonna put Brinstar - Overgrown with Vegetation on Pyrosphere, that's just dumb.

Still subjective. YOU think it's dumb. You don't think Brinstar fits because Pyrosphere is a lava area and Brinstar is a cave with vegetation. That is because you think a song has to be on a similar environment as its original context.

However, I think that songs should stick to stages that match the franchise they're from. Simple as that. I find the Brinstar song, a Metroid themed song, more fitting on a Metroid themed stage, even if the stage's setting might not match exactly. It's all a matter of opinion.

This said, I've stated all I had to say about this.