Ice climber vid Advice Needed ^^

[WooICYU]

Hey, i was playing a bi-weekly tournament sunday 21st

i got eliminated first =P

Sorry the sounds a little off

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1LzlcIUZMwk

Advice is appreciated

 

[dj asakura]

ok, just watched it. I dont know much about the Luigi matchup but i have some general info. here's what i've got

- practice wavedashing a lot more. it's so important to the IC's game and needs to be perfected. your opponent got a lot of damage off your missed wavedashes.

- learn to SH and SHFFL. it's important for the IC's air game since if you use an air attack and they arent above you, you'll want to be back on the ground ASAP. the IC's thrive on ground.

- like wobbles said below me, d-throw u-smash is good at low percents, as is d-throw f-smash. at low percents, going for CG's isnt worth it. they will usually escape.

thats all i've got cause i'm pretty lazy right now but wobbles help is better then mine so read his. good luck

 

[Wobbles]

Hmm...

1: Fundamentals. It goes without saying that you can't mess up wavedashes, period. You get punished and miss a lot of stuff because of flubbed WD's, so my first spot of advice is to practice those.

2: At lower percents, I would recommend down-throw up-smash. This puts Luigi high up which lets you get the opportunity for up-air. It's one of the few things he can't just out prioritize with n-air. The aiming is tricky; you have to be under him but SLIGHTLY behind. This way he can't b-air, d-air, or n-air you out. It's his weak spot in the air, pretty much. You have to watch out though, because Luigi is floaty and has crazy air control, so you might not get into that sweet zone.

3: General spacing. You wander into attacks a lot; this is very understandable against a Luigi because he's zipping everywhere and his speed makes it hard to tell where he's going to go, but it's still something that has to be improved. Pay a little more attention to your opponent's movement and where you are on the stage in relation to him.

It's all kind of basic, but it should help, I hope.

 

[WooICYU]

thanks alot for the advice.

 

[Genuine]

Yea you need technical skill and dont use ice blocks when hes close to you. Also when you get a grab dont let nana do all the work; beat up on him some with popo.

You should also work on your waveland.

However from waht I Luigi does counter( or is atleast faster ) IC b/c he is the only char with a wavedash long than the IC making him faster than the IC.

Also it wont hurt to dash dance more. It will improve the speed of your climbers.

 

[WooICYU]

We'll most the time i dont like to dash-dance because it de-syncs the IC's, and luigi just owns my nana cause she doesent DI.

 

[W.Jr]

Your Ice climer aren't that bad, u just got

to wavedash more, also dashdance & more

mindgames, but over all good video.

 

[Pookiez]

I suggest you learn the basic desyncs. at least roll and dodge desyncs. they will help you out a lot.

 

[Wobbles]

Actually, it might be interesting to play around with iceblocks on top of the opponent's shield. You noticed how at one point he fires the iceblocks and the Luigi shields it; they start bouncing and won't let him move out. It might bait the enemy out of the shield and get hit by one, letting you punish them.

Of course, that's a ridiculous idea and probably wouldn't work for real, but it's a funny thought. I actually think I'll just try that next time I play, to see what happens.

 

[Pookiez]

I would imagine most people would run under it if they see you ice blocking and punish you for it, but i could see it working if it is unexpected (which should be the first time/s you use it on someone.) I used to aim for shields w/ the iceblocks before a lot but I stopped because it would get me punished more often than not. >_>

 

[Genuine]

well if you want the ice block to hit the shield, you can do this. It is a TAD unethical but if you approach with a jumping ice block and they arent expecting it usually there first thing to do is reflexively shield or WD back.

Its very crazy seeing as you can get punished easily if they expect it, but its a good surprise attack that can be used once every blue moon.