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Smash 3DS I need ways to train properly.

Nanatashi

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Hello you cool peeps! I have been playing sm4sh recently and I have been training alot so I can enter tournaments eventually. I go against Lvl.5 or higher bots at one stock. Any suggestions? (Also, I did a match with Lvl. 5 cpu, 1 stock, and killed then in 12 seconds... does that mean my training is working?)
 

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Well it depends what exactly you're trying to train. Fundamentals, specific techs?
 

Nanatashi

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Uh, I have no idea what a Fundamental is in smash or a tech... lol

EDIT: I know what fundamental means though...
 
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I'd start with techniques you want to or like to use, then start researching combos, skills, etc. and practice them. Training mode and for glory will be your best friend.
 

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Alright well then before you even develop a training routine, I would say it would benefit you to watch basics videos on the most common techs in Smash 4. Super Smash Academy on YouTube has some good ones.
 

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Avoid double posting, please.
I think that, if you need to learn some basics of competitive Smash, you should start simple. What is a neutral game, what are the options for your character at neutral, what stages each character is better at (Mario: Battlefield, Pikachu: Lylat Cruise, for example), and generic techs, like Teching solid structures when you tumble in the air, proper applications of spotdodges and dodge rools, DI and Vectoring...
 

Nanatashi

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I was just letting the two that were above that i made a bit of progress, thats all. Thanks for the video too...

EDIT: I am on 3ds btw
 
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Jumpo

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I can only train offline, I spend time in training mode learning new techniques and combos, then play a couple of matches against a lvl 7/8 cpu just until I can do the thing I was learning successfully on a moving/attacking target. Then just go back to training mode, fighting the cpu heaps will give you bad habits otherwise, and unless if you killed the cpu in 12 seconds with a true combo, basically no it doesn't mean anything because the cpu doesn't understand things like how to recover safely
 

Nanatashi

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I can only train offline, I spend time in training mode learning new techniques and combos, then play a couple of matches against a lvl 7/8 cpu just until I can do the thing I was learning successfully on a moving/attacking target. Then just go back to training mode, fighting the cpu heaps will give you bad habits otherwise, and unless if you killed the cpu in 12 seconds with a true combo, basically no it doesn't mean anything because the cpu doesn't understand things like how to recover safely
you got a point I guess...

EDIT: Actually, Lvl. 9 Cpu's know some pretty interesting things, and I learned a bit of DI and tech or what ever people call this stuff.
 
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I also noticed the CPUs almost never edgeguard. At all. Sometimes, if they're feeling clevery, they go for a Down Smash at the edge. If they're Marth/Lucina, they might go one step further and try a Down Tilt!
They never hit it, though.
 

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I also noticed the CPUs almost never edgeguard. At all. Sometimes, if they're feeling clevery, they go for a Down Smash at the edge. If they're Marth/Lucina, they might go one step further and try a Down Tilt!
They never hit it, though.
I got down-air'd by a level 8 ganondorf CPU offstage once (on the 3DS). He didn't go that far offstage, though.
 
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They may not do certain things that a real player does, but lvl9 CPU's are still plenty since they're frame perfect and in certain ways better than some FG players. A good balance of CPU's and FG I think would go a long way.
 

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Going to tournaments, even if you know you're going to lose, is always a good idea. Computers are good to a point, but you'll start to learn bad habits fighting them. Other players can point out what you should and shouldn't be doing. I also like to see how pros play my characters; you should never try to completely copy someone's style, but sometimes you'll see combos or uses for attacks that you might not have come up with on your own.
 

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Going to tournaments, even if you know you're going to lose, is always a good idea. Computers are good to a point, but you'll start to learn bad habits fighting them. Other players can point out what you should and shouldn't be doing. I also like to see how pros play my characters; you should never try to completely copy someone's style, but sometimes you'll see combos or uses for attacks that you might not have come up with on your own.
Assuming that's an option of course. I know plenty places have limited scenes.
 

Nanatashi

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I wouldnt be able to travel to tournaments, im only 14 and i dont have a job.
 
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