I need help...

[Ikiimoni]

As president of the local SSB Club, it rests upon me to enforce the rules and make sure everyone is behaving. I do a good job, but I'm concerned about one member who sucks at the game compared to the rest of us. He thinks he's good with Ganondorf and Little Mac, a bad omen as is, and often spams the same four attacks. Everyone in the club has tried working with him, but he hasn't improved. What can we do?

 

[A_Kae]

As president of the local SSB Club, it rests upon me to enforce the rules and make sure everyone is behaving. I do a good job, but I'm concerned about one member who sucks at the game compared to the rest of us. He thinks he's good with Ganondorf and Little Mac, a bad omen as is, and often spams the same four attacks. Everyone in the club has tried working with him, but he hasn't improved. What can we do?

How exactly have you tried helping him? What are the four attacks he's using?

I'm just trying to get a better idea of the situation.

 

[Ikiimoni]

How exactly have you tried helping him? What are the four attacks he's using?

I'm just trying to get a better idea of the situation.

He usually plays Ganondorf. He spams Side-B, then goes for a down tilt. He will do this up to 5 times in a row. The other moves he spams are the down smash, the side smash and the dash attack. The side smash would be effective, but he often faces the wrong way. By often, I DO mean over 50%.

 

[A_Kae]

He usually plays Ganondorf. He spams Side-B, then goes for a down tilt. He will do this up to 5 times in a row. The other moves he spams are the down smash, the side smash and the dash attack. The side smash would be effective, but he often faces the wrong way. By often, I DO mean over 50%.

Well, I had something typed out, but my browser crashed. I was able to recreate most of it, but it took some extra time. Sorry.

That's even worse than I thought. I'm not sure how much I can assist here. I'll try, though. Correct me if I'm wrong about this, but he sounds like the type to not take advice well. If that's the case, I'm not sure how much you can do.

Try having him switch characters, preferably to one you or another who can help knows well. I see you have Dedede as your main, try him. If he doesn't want to switch, it's not super important, it's just easier on you. Go through the moves of the character, explain what they do, and how they're useful in different scenarios. Note the speed of the attacks, both for how long until the hitbox is active, and how long after the hitbox is gone until another action can be taken. Also note the areas the attacks hit. Explain that these affect when moves are best for different scenarios, and that you need to be aware of, and use all the moves that a character possesses. Also emphasize that repeated move use becomes very predictable.

That's a start, at least. There's definitely more, but it's a start.

 

[Ikiimoni]

Well, I had something typed out, but my browser crashed. I was able to recreate most of it, but it took some extra time. Sorry.

That's even worse than I thought. I'm not sure how much I can assist here. I'll try, though. Correct me if I'm wrong about this, but >>>>>> he sounds like the type to not take advice well. <<<<<< If that's the case, I'm not sure how much you can do.

Try having him switch characters, preferably to one you or another who can help knows well. I see you have Dedede as your main, try him. If he doesn't want to switch, it's not super important, it's just easier on you. Go through the moves of the character, explain what they do, and how they're useful in different scenarios. Note the speed of the attacks, both for how long until the hitbox is active, and how long after the hitbox is gone until another action can be taken. Also note the areas the attacks hit. Explain that these affect when moves are best for different scenarios, and that you need to be aware of, and use all the moves that a character possesses. Also emphasize that repeated move use becomes very predictable.

That's a start, at least. There's definitely more, but it's a start.

I gotta say, everything you said was spot on.

I have already tried teaching him R.O.B., who was my best character for a short period of time and who I consider easy to learn. It didn't work out well, but he gained a minute amount of knowledge from it. I'm not the best at SSB4 in the club, I'd say I'm 3rd best, so I wouldn't be able to walk him through hitboxes, it's just kinda instinctual for me. The more advanced players have already given up on working with him. If anything, I'm worried HE'S giving up.

 

[A_Kae]

I gotta say, everything you said was spot on.

I have already tried teaching him R.O.B., who was my best character for a short period of time and who I consider easy to learn. It didn't work out well, but he gained a minute amount of knowledge from it. I'm not the best at SSB4 in the club, I'd say I'm 3rd best, so I wouldn't be able to walk him through hitboxes, it's just kinda instinctual for me. The more advanced players have already given up on working with him. If anything, I'm worried HE'S giving up.

That's it, I'm writing my posts in a separate text editor. Smashboards nightly backup ate my post.

Well, he has to want to get better for it to actually happen. That's very important.

You don't necessarily need to teach a character, just having him switch every few days or so is good. Learning a new character, (or relearning an old one) is a great way to improve at smash in general, for all levels, since you're forcing yourself to use something unfamiliar, so you pay more attention to what you're doing. You 'autopilot' less. This is good for getting rid of deeply ingrained bad habits that you might not have even known you had. Marth, I've found is a good character for this, since he relies purely on the fundamentals of smash, and I think isn't too hard to pick up at a low level. I'm super biased here though. Switching characters for a while is something I'd recommend to everyone. It's great for getting better, and you might just find a character that you like enough to permanently switch.

The important thing is that he needs to want to be helped and get better. That's most important.

Sorry this took so long.