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WinterTrigger

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hey guys, I have a question, is it important to learn wavedashing in order to play competitively? I'm still using a wiimote and can't afford a GC controller yet.
 

CORY

wut
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no, not important at all for most characters, especially if you're just starting in the game.
 

Stride

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Yes.

There are many necessary things that are impossible to do on a Wiimote, so make geting a Gamecube controller (or just any other controller; a Wiimote is the worst available option apart from maybe a keybroard) a top priority.

It's also necessary to get a CRT TV or monitor too; look on the internet and in charity shops, and ask friends and family.
 
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ECHOnce

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^Both of these.

Yes, you should purchase a GameCube controller; you're physically limited to using worse/less/harder options if you're using anything else (no reason to give yourself a harder time! It's not optimal).

No, you don't need to learn wavedashing...it's not technically necessary for every character. But you'll reach a point where you will, just like the controller, come to find that not spending a bit of time practicing basic tech will limit you to harder/worse/less options, and that'll hold you back from reaching your peak potential. And if you do plan on playing competitively for any decent period of time (like... more than a few months lol), you'll probably find yourself hitting that skill wall pretty early.

(As a general rule of thumb, you should try to make as many options available to yourself as possible, in any aspect of play; more choices/tools = bigger chance you have something to trump your opponent...or better yet, multiple options that trump them, so you can mix up and keep them guessing. Conversely, limiting your options is basically sabotaging yourself.)
 
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Brim

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It really is not a necessity, but it depends on who you wants to play; most of it really depends on the character. A good example is Bowser, he doesn't need his wavedash but it's extremely helpful for him if you learn how to waveland because it helps his mobility A LOT. But Bowser as a character really doesn't need his wavedash, it's mostly useless anyway for Bowser.
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Maybe if you tell us who you want to play, that would help us more?
 
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CORY

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if you're just learning the game, don't worry about wavedashing or wavelanding, unless you play someone like ic's or luigi, since wding is basically a primary form of movement for them. worry about getting your shffl down pat, learning proper spacing (in both the move sense and the overall stage control sense), and basic control for tilts v smash, etc...

once you get those basics down pretty well, then it's worth your time to learn wding, amongst other things.
 

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>in order to play competitively
competitively is a mindset not any state of game, simply by playing in a serious fashion you're playing competitively

but if you want to be good, you're going to have to get a crt, a gamecube controller, and then learn to wavedash and decide for yourself whether or not you need to do it (the overwhelming majority of people think it is necessary)
 

Brim

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Thanks for the info guys. Right now, im using toon link.
Yeah, just to clarify TL really doesn't need wavedashes, but once again just really helpful to keep mobile. Part of all this really depends on what level of Smash you're hoping to reach. If you're going to try to go competitive, you REALLY want to learn how to bomb-recover, or aka "Bomb Jump". Refer to below. One big thing you might want to learn is how to execute good pivot grabs especially when they're prone.
Just to note the video only covers the bomb jump.


Any other questions I highly recommend referring to here
 
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