• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

How was shiek nerfed?

ShootFrank

Smash Rookie
Joined
Apr 7, 2008
Messages
23
Location
Long Island, NY
other than Fair having no knockback(rather its good for chasing off-stage) how else was shiek nerfed? she got a tether recovery and seems to still combo good. you can say her Dair is worse but it depends on how you look at it. stall-and-fall is just another ability that she can use rather than a plain kick downwards.
 

Zankoku

Never Knows Best
Administrator
BRoomer
Joined
Nov 8, 2006
Messages
22,906
Location
Milpitas, CA
NNID
SSBM_PLAYER
The superfast fall of the dair isn't what makes it bad, it's the extreme landing lag.

A lot of Sheik's attacks seem to have carried over directly from Melee into Brawl, which makes things less effective. Her bair can be DI'd upward so it loses its effectiveness as an edgeguard somewhat, her dsmash no longer sends at decent angles, her jabs don't have enough hitstun or shieldstun to give true comboing or shield pressure, etc. etc.

So mostly, it's just that things that worked in Melee no longer do simply because of the new physics.
 

Tyr_03

Smash Champion
Joined
Mar 4, 2008
Messages
2,805
Location
OH
The thing I hate most about Brawl Sheik is you can't chaingrab or techchase.
 

Tristan_win

Not dead.
Joined
Aug 7, 2006
Messages
3,845
Location
Currently Japan
I think one of the biggest nerf was to her needles.

They are harder to use,
Can't gimp anymore
Ton of lag when throw in the air

and the biggest of all is that they no longer cancel upon landing. In Melee Sheik had one of the best approaches in the game with her needle storm cancel as even if your opponents shielded the attack if done correctly they where doomed to be grabbed, which would almost always lead into a attack.
 

gantrain05

Smash Master
Joined
Mar 19, 2008
Messages
3,840
Location
Maxwell, IA
not to mention she lost nearly all combo potential, i mean in melee i could combo my friends up to a good 60-70 percent from 0 but now im lucky to get 2 or 3 hits =/ so yeah, the physics of the game suck for the melee shiek player, i guess i'll just have to find a new playstyle.
 
Top Bottom