How to train alone with Melee? (Sorry if this dosen't belong here)

[McZaxon]

Hi!

I'm just now starting to actually get into the competitive melee scene. I know a good amount of advanced techs and have been using them in training as best I can, along with using them when I play casually with my friends.

The biggest question I have is how would you train alone until you get to know more people? Right now, all I've basically been doing is practicing wavedashing, wavlanding, waveblahblahblah, if it has wave in it, you bet I'm practicing it! wavedashing, especially with Luigi, is a giant pain in the ***. Like holy crap. My biggest problem is consistency. I've actually gotten to the point where I can do it fairly well, but my consistency is bad. I'll wavedash correctly two or three times and then jump. Try again and immediately jump and so on and so forth, and it gets really annoying REALLY fast. That actually lends another question in itself: should I remove the spring in the right trigger? Will that help my consistency? Or does it not matter?

Any way, I know fighting CPU's is bad practice because they aren't humans. But how do I go about training if I have no humans to train with yet? Any tips are helpful! Thank you very much for your time!

 

[Comet7]

with technical stuff just practice until you're satisfied with how consistent you become. with time, when you want to wavedash or do whatever else you wish to, you won't have to think about it at all.

you can remove the spring if you want to. i haven't done it since i don't have a triwing screwdriver (these are cheap and are necessary for getting into the guts of your controller), but other people seem to like it.

you can use CPUs to practice combos against if you don't have any other options. learn how the CPUs DI and set the level to whatever you want to test with. for example, level 9 CPUs will almost always do survival DI, and level 3s will mix up the DI a bit (they're generally accepted the best to practice chaingrabs on as well).

there are several guides out there that can help you with practicing different techs in vanilla melee as well. check those out once you get the basics down.

edit: shadowboxing is great. unless you reach an absolutely absurd level with your tech, that alone won't carry you, even though you may already know that.

 

[Massive]

You have to play with people better than you to get better.

You can practice tech skill until you literally break your hands, but you won't be able to apply any of it without human training partners. If you don't have any human competition, you will never be very good at melee.

The truth is harsh, but it is still the truth.

 

[Cool]

You can destroy a level 3 CPU to work on your combo game or go in and practice tech skill, but you have to play with people. That's honestly one of the best things about Melee.

 

[Clint Jaguar]

Practice advanced tech and basic combo game in Melee. For everything else, you'll have to go and find some real players to go up against. I'm in the same boat, where I have no one to practice with but I've started going to tournaments and I play Smash 4 online just to practice my neutral game.

 

[AirFair]

Basically just master tech. It's not certain that you will be able to use it well in game, but at least learn it.

You can use 20XX to learn some awesome stuff. Go google 20XX hack pack and do some reading.

On vanilla, lvl 1-3 cpus can help with basic combo/punish game.

 

[McZaxon]

Basically just master tech. It's not certain that you will be able to use it well in game, but at least learn it.

You can use 20XX to learn some awesome stuff. Go google 20XX hack pack and do some reading.

On vanilla, lvl 1-3 cpus can help with basic combo/punish game.

Okay awesome, i'll take a look into the 20XX hack pack. I've never really known what that was until now, so i'll have to give it a try.

thanks for your help!

 

[McZaxon]

with technical stuff just practice until you're satisfied with how consistent you become. with time, when you want to wavedash or do whatever else you wish to, you won't have to think about it at all.

you can remove the spring if you want to. i haven't done it since i don't have a triwing screwdriver (these are cheap and are necessary for getting into the guts of your controller), but other people seem to like it.

you can use CPUs to practice combos against if you don't have any other options. learn how the CPUs DI and set the level to whatever you want to test with. for example, level 9 CPUs will almost always do survival DI, and level 3s will mix up the DI a bit (they're generally accepted the best to practice chaingrabs on as well).

there are several guides out there that can help you with practicing different techs in vanilla melee as well. check those out once you get the basics down.

edit: shadowboxing is great. unless you reach an absolutely absurd level with your tech, that alone won't carry you, even though you may already know that.

Yeah, i'm going to try to remove the spring in the right trigger and see if that does anything to help with my consistency. And i'll definitely use CPUs for combo training.

By the way, whats shadowboxing?

 

[McZaxon]

You have to play with people better than you to get better.

You can practice tech skill until you literally break your hands, but you won't be able to apply any of it without human training partners. If you don't have any human competition, you will never be very good at melee.

The truth is harsh, but it is still the truth.

Yeah I completely understand. I'm definitely trying to get into the local smash scene here in town, so I should have some friendlies to train with soon for sure! Thanks for the advice!

 

[Dolla Pills]

You can have fun and play level 1-3 CPU's to keep your hands used to playing, when I play against computers I usually try to focus on moving around the stage because you're not really learning anything from fighting one.

As far as tech skill goes yeah it's nice to practice everything, but if you've never done it in a real match I can guarantee you will choke as soon as you play real people, especially in tournament. Not only that but you won't learn how to apply the techniques either (but it still is important to be able to consistently do them, don't get that wrong).