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How to practice doing moves out of dash dance?

L33thal

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I feel like dash dancing is a really important tool for everyone's neutral game because it lets you position your moves and do mixups (e.g. PPMD).

But for some reason, when I try to do a move out of DD, my brain just can't input pressing X when my thumb is moving the control stick back and forth. I think this makes my neutral game really bad, especially as Falco. Every time I approach I always WD back to position myself and it's like I'm a Megaman boss giving cues that I'm going to do a move.

Does anyone know of a good way to practice this?
 

NitroSSBM

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Grind it out. Try to think of it as two different motions, dash-dancing and jumping, then do each separately and practice. You could also eliminate thinking about it as a whole, which seems to help me out when I can't get my brain to "think" and do a certain techskill correctly. Just picture what you want to do, and do it; let your fingers take you from there. I hope I could help, and if not, I'm sure someone else can. :)
 

ECHOnce

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But for some reason, when I try to do a move out of DD, my brain just can't input pressing X when my thumb is moving the control stick back and forth.
This is my favorite line of all time. No offense intended. There's a genius in you somewhere.

EDIT: on a more serious note, try breaking down the individual inputs that give you trouble, and grind them out in pairs. Here, you're trying to dash dance and jump, maybe into an aerial or wavedash or grab. Dash left, dash right x10. Then dash right, short hop (straight up) x10. Then alternating the two exercises x10. Do them super slowly and think about it. Doing stuff slowly is more boring/harder because it forces you to work out the little kinks and issues in your inputs that you can blur over and pretend aren't a big problem while playing fast. Then do the same thing, but with jumping forwards. Then back. Then dashing right, dashing left, jump. Then wavedashing (via the jump) forwards/backwards/in place, and JC grabbing forwards/backwards, or doing a second wavedash forwards/backwards. Then once you practice it overexcessively until you do it mindlessly (in practice, not in matches...and 90% consistency while super focused on it =/= being able to do it mindlessly), practice full running dash --> wavedash in place/forwards/backwards --> dash dance --> jump --> stuff. (This lets you start dash dancing wherever you want lol). Then throw that into your in-between mini tech practice session after you kill people in friendlies, so you get used to doing it while in a more active mindset. etc. etc.

TL;DR practice the individual inputs in pairs of two super slowly, put them together, gradually speed up. Do that for 10-15 min even if it seems stupidly excessive. Within a few days you'll feel like a zombie. But a zombie who can act out of dash dance via muscle memory, as absent-mindedly as a scrub may dodge roll on reaction.
 
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zero sum

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i've never had this specific problem but have you tried breaking a dd aerial down into its constituent parts? for example:

go into training mode and dash forward. i'm assuming that you've got that down. after that just try jumping. once you can jump out of dash try doing an aerial like a neutral air. when you get that down try dashing the other direction and do another aerial. from there just try dashing back, then forward, then jump and do an aerial. once you're comfortable with doing that the whole process of doing a dash dance aerial will likely be very easy to you. gl
 

AirFair

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Yeah it's easier to do tech when you do each step slowly by itself first. You will eventually speed it up as you get more comfortable with it.
 
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