how to make hands faster for advanced techniques

[mythbust4000]

I can fast fall sheild grab and stuff like that but if it require fast inputs like wave dashing and short hopping because my thumbs/fingers are not fast enough to do these things

 

[Binx]

practice things slowly until you are doing the correct motion and you are 100% sure you are doing the correct motion. Once you can do it slowly do it faster and faster until you get the hang of it, then practice it while shielding while landing while on platforms whatever.

 

[Xyzz]

I can fast fall short hop and stuff like that but if it require fast inputs like wave dashing and short hopping because my thumbs/fingers are not fast enough to do these things

Little bit indecisive, are we?

 

[burntfish44]

The tl;dr version:
You just gotta practice it a ton. Put some time in just playing the game, and put some time in practicing specific stuff.


Longer version:
I remember back when controlling ZSS in brawl was hard, and now i laugh at the fact because I have (mostly) solid control over melee fox with all kinds of cool tech stuff like waveshines and multishines.

I'll give you my method tutorial style for learning short-hopping:
1. what button do you use to jump? Y or X?
1.5: if you use Y, can you shorthop 9/10 times?
If you answered but no to 1.5... well you're using from here on out.
2. Do you try to shorthop consistently by pressing in and quickly releasing the jump button?
If you answered yes to this, and your short hops are less consistent than 3 out of 4 tries (being new), try this method:

You've already switched to using right? Good good. Are you still trying to press and release quickly but not getting consistent results?
Try just quickly grazing X with your thumb. If your right thumb naturally hovers over (ish), just bring it rightwards and downwards, so you basically barely press the X button, and because you graze over it quickly, it releases more consistently.



Hopefully this will help your SH consistency, although once you get this down the next step is making your fingers quick enough to follow up (now that your thumb is to the right of your controller, you gotta bring it back quick to hit A). Get the shorthop consistency down though - the speed will come with passive practice



Soon enough you'll be pillar shining

Or fair string -> ken combo

Or multishining

Lol etc

 

[mythbust4000]

The tl;dr version:
You just gotta practice it a ton. Put some time in just playing the game, and put some time in practicing specific stuff.


Longer version:
I remember back when controlling ZSS in brawl was hard, and now i laugh at the fact because I have (mostly) solid control over melee fox with all kinds of cool tech stuff like waveshines and multishines.

I'll give you my method tutorial style for learning short-hopping:
1. what button do you use to jump? Y or X?
1.5: if you use Y, can you shorthop 9/10 times?
If you answered but no to 1.5... well you're using from here on out.
2. Do you try to shorthop consistently by pressing in and quickly releasing the jump button?
If you answered yes to this, and your short hops are less consistent than 3 out of 4 tries (being new), try this method:

You've already switched to using right? Good good. Are you still trying to press and release quickly but not getting consistent results?
Try just quickly grazing X with your thumb. If your right thumb naturally hovers over (ish), just bring it rightwards and downwards, so you basically barely press the X button, and because you graze over it quickly, it releases more consistently.



Hopefully this will help your SH consistency, although once you get this down the next step is making your fingers quick enough to follow up (now that your thumb is to the right of your controller, you gotta bring it back quick to hit A). Get the shorthop consistency down though - the speed will come with passive practice



Soon enough you'll be pillar shining

Or fair string -> ken combo

Or multishining

Lol etc

Thanks

 

[AirFair]

Yeah, it's never easy when you start practicing. Just get the motions down to where you are comfortable and speed it up.

 

[Vorde]

I've been playing twice a week for going on a year now and I still get really frustrated in solo tech practice. I play Fox so I have to be fast, and a lot of his techniques are too easily done over and over and over without fail.
I find after 10 mins I have to give myself a 5 min break so I don't get too overwhelmed. But yeah, solo practice is boring, but it pays too well to neglect

 

[Stride]

Unless you are extremely young (something like <8 years old) or have some sort of disability affecting your use of your hands, motor control, etc., then you are definitely physically able to perform these techniques; all you have to do is develop the necessary coordination/muscle memory through practice. Everyone who is physically healthy can do it. "My fingers are not fast enough" is not a legitimate excuse; "I can't move my finger fast enough in the right way (because of lack of practice)" is perfectly valid however, and can be worked around until it is no longer true.

For all tech skill, don't tense yourself up; it will make you slower and less precise. Keep your hands relaxed and do whatever is most comfortable/consistent (you can tell what this is because you will naturally gravitate towards it). Put differently: "don't try too hard".

For short hopping, I suggest pressing the button and sliding your thumb off in one motion rather than pushing your thumb down and lifting it back up; almost swiping across rather than pressing. This is what I do. With this method you don't even have to be fast (or at least it never feels like it since it's a single, smooth motion rather than a "push" and a "retract"); if you can rub your index finger with your thumb then you can short hop with this method since it's the same motion but with a controller between your thumb and finger.

For wavedashing, you don't have to be fast since all you are doing is pressing one button after another without having to move your hands from a single position; pressing the first button does not make it any harder to press the second button. Therefore, if you are messing up a wavedash, it is not because you are too slow, it's because you are using the wrong timing. Just practice it until you get more precise and consistent.

Different characters have different timings for wavedashing, because when they jump they leave the ground after different amounts of time; I suggest only learning with one character, or with characters that have the same timing until you get the technique down, as learning multiple timings simultaneously may confuse you. Look at this list to see how quickly characters leave the ground after jumping and only practice with characters from one group: http://clashtournaments.com/mew2kings-melee-information-and-discoveries/#40

 

[fatman667]

I think it's different for everyone. For me I played a lot of fighting games and it really made my tech skills better before I even knew they got better. Playing Guilty Gear made me able to do multishines that I couldn't do before and shine turnaround wavedashes with both Fox and Falco in both scenarios. Guilty Gear also made L-Canceling easier when I played #Reload on PC, since Ky's air special's FRC timing is literally L-Canceling's except you have half the time to do it. Guilty Gear might not help you the same way it helped me though, it's different for everyone. For you it could be just continue playing and slowly taking steps and then try to put them all together quickly.