How to handle diddy and Luigi???

[G-Sword]

I'm making this thread so we can share tips on Fox's two toughest matchups I my opinion. I'm a very good player but I can't get over these two characters and they are the only two keeping me away from being a top player. Even after the patch diddy is still really good and Luigi is very hard to punish because a lot of his moves don't have much end lag. What are your guys tips to handle these two

 

[EndlessRain]

Matchup discussion goes here

 

[DeathlyFerret]

Throw them off (Neither do too well offstage),try to gimp them, use the banana to your advantage, and don't get grabbed.

 

[G-Sword]

I know about the discussion but would like a more in depth convo on these fighters. They are the only ones stopping fox and me in general. @ DeathlyFerret my beat bet is probably get these two in the air as much as possible than? Luigi I can't attack him from the front unless I'm above. His neutral air is just way too good.

 

[DeathlyFerret]

I know about the discussion but would like a more in depth convo on these fighters. They are the only ones stopping fox and me in general. @ DeathlyFerret my beat bet is probably get these two in the air as much as possible than? Luigi I can't attack him from the front unless I'm above. His neutral air is just way too good.

For it is a fairly good idea to keep him in the air. Juggle him as much as you can, and punish his landings. Diddy can't do too much to stop juggles (laggy Dair, weak and punishable Nair, linear Fair and Bair) he can monkey flip away, but you can catch him if you're fast enough... just watch out for the B-reverse.

As for , it's best to juggle with Uair for a variety of reasons.
-His Bair is a very strong kill move.
-His Uair has decent range.
- Your Dair is a little hard to land without getting hit.
-I'm pretty sure his Nair has more priority than Fox's.
-You can also hit with 's Bair from the front of Luigi... Just don't be too close to him.
In addition...
--Never, ever shield against a close-up Luigi or Diddy in the neutral. Diddy's throw combos do great damage, eventually kill, and Luigi can literally survive entire sets using nothing but fireballs and Dthrow combos.
Do anything you can... Side B to the other side of the stage, dance around platforms, catch the banana and reflect the fireballs, just do not shield when close to them. If you really have to shield, make sure to have good timing to get a lagless perfect shield.