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How to deal with trash talk?

IntriguedGamer

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Hello! I was wondering if anyone here has any good advice about how to deal with trash talk. Not the friendly banter but more so someone who straight out insults you.

I had a run in a few weeks ago while I was playing with a friend. He brought along some people he knew and we all started doing 1v1s. During my match with one of them, they started to say I'm just a bad player and that "you need to stop doing this and this" with no suggestions on how to improve. This struck a cord in me since in the 25-30 games me and him played, he won maybe 4. Even after that when he was just watching all he did was say I'm a bad player and I shouldn't be playing despite the outcome of the match

It has seriously been bothering me and I can't find the energy to play as much recently. Any suggestions to help out would be much appreciated.
 

_gold_

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You can't really justify your smack talk unless you back it up. If you won the majority of the games, yet he's still talking smack, just ignore it. It has no foundation. He's just a sore loser.

Shake the dust off your feet and move along. Sticks and stones. Instead seek constructive criticism, which you can find all over the place on SmashBoards. Or other websites, friends, whatever it may be.
 

GreenMonkey

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Hello! I was wondering if anyone here has any good advice about how to deal with trash talk. Not the friendly banter but more so someone who straight out insults you.

I had a run in a few weeks ago while I was playing with a friend. He brought along some people he knew and we all started doing 1v1s. During my match with one of them, they started to say I'm just a bad player and that "you need to stop doing this and this" with no suggestions on how to improve. This struck a cord in me since in the 25-30 games me and him played, he won maybe 4. Even after that when he was just watching all he did was say I'm a bad player and I shouldn't be playing despite the outcome of the match

It has seriously been bothering me and I can't find the energy to play as much recently. Any suggestions to help out would be much appreciated.
What a jerk! I'm sorry to hear that you've had to go through such rude treatment. :c

As for dealing with people like that, you should confront them about their disrespectful behavior! If they're simply insulting you without providing helpful advice, then feel free to point that out. Just like _gold_ _gold_ mentioned, if he doesn't have anything to back him up, you can just ignore him!

Or, if you really want to, shove it in his face whenever you win a match against him. Or perhaps point out how his plays are bad and call him a bad player.

In all honesty, some parts of the Smash community can be rather toxic sometimes. Some players are always going to be salty if they lose, and it's best for you not to dwell too much on those kinds of people.
 

FamilyTeam

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Kind of sounds like they were just insulting you because they were salty, or something.
Don't let it get to you, that guy doesn't sound like he's either a good sport or a good player.
 

IntriguedGamer

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Thanx! Yea when it's constructive I'm good about it wether it is winning or losing but talk like that gets to me. I'll just try and avoid him for the time being or just try and brush it off if I have to play him in a local tourney. Also I feel like shoving a win in his face may not be the best thing despite really REALLY wanting to. Also this is the best side of the smash scene! Thanx for the pick me up I really needed it!!
 

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The best way to deal with trash talk is to win.

If you can't win, just shrug it off and practice until you can beat said trash talker.
 
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Money match him. That'll show him. Or if he's like me, he'll go into it (knowing he's gonna lose) and then trash talk you anyways :p Joke's aside, ignore it. If you're a better player, you can trash talk him or remain humble (the latter is the RIGHT thing to do, but the former is much more entertaining), but if you're not, admit your faults and work to improve.
 

Wintermelon43

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1v1 him. Defeat him. Make him ask you for mercy..... Okay don't do that last part.
 

KirbCider

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I had a run in a few weeks ago while I was playing with a friend. He brought along some people he knew and we all started doing 1v1s. During my match with one of them, they started to say I'm just a bad player and that "you need to stop doing this and this" with no suggestions on how to improve. This struck a cord in me since in the 25-30 games me and him played, he won maybe 4. Even after that when he was just watching all he did was say I'm a bad player and I shouldn't be playing despite the outcome of the match.
So if I'm hearing this right, he only won 4 out of 25 or so games against you and he's calling you a bad player?

He honestly sounds like the typical For Glory player who claims you're a scrub when you beat them. If you're such a terrible player and you can beat him that many times, then what does that say about his own skills exactly? I never really understood this mentality.

He's just being a sore loser and trying to justify why he lost with empty reasonings. Let him call you a bad player and complain if it makes him feel accomplished, because in the end he's only calling himself an even worse player. Sadly enough, although it may not always be common you're going to get someone like that who values winning over sportsmanship. When your with friends the very point of it should be to have fun after all, not who can be the better player. It sucks you had to deal with that; however don't let it get to you.

You aren't forced to play against him again, and you can always ask/tell your friend not to bring him again if it boils down to it.
 

FallenHero

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Next time you get a chance play against them in a set, maybe even play a money match if you think you are confident you can win. If he only won about 4 matches out of about 25-30 he sounds like he would be free. Or you can just ignore him if you don't want to waste your time. He is probably just salty cause he can't win and he doesn't know you as well as your friend. I am the type to make someone back up their trash talk if they start talking **** about me or someone I feel would win against them, and I never care if I feel they might be able to back it up. Hell, if ZeRo or Nairo were to talk trash about me I would play against them even if I have a very low chance of winning. I rarely ever trash talk, but if I do it is about someone I feel I can beat 100%.
 

RespawningJesus

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Just headbutt him. No one messes with you when you headbutt them. Drop kicks also work nicely too.

Okay, jokes aside, just ignore them. If they are going to be like that, you can't really do anything about it.
 

Treedot

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I recommend coping with it the same way I cope with tournament nerves.

Wear headphones.
 

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Be the more mature person and just ignore it. If it's really bothering you I guess you could confront him about it, but I'm not sure if that'd go anywhere.
 

ELITEWarri0r115

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I must admit, I never got trash talked ever... maybe I have behind my back and never knew, but eh whatever. I shrug it off and keep on walking. Or I would turn to them, compliment them SARCASTICALLY for what they said, and ignore it. (what I have done in arguments.) but, like many others suggested, Just ignore the fact.
 

Leon Rios

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To be honest, the best way to deal with trash talk (to me) is not to. Don't pay any attention to it; most people that do that are just looking to unsettle you and make you lash out at them. They enjoy it. Shrug it off and play the game. Don't give them the satisfaction of getting a rise out of you. If it keeps up, I strongly recommend talking to the person running the event. I don't know about most TO's, but if I were running an event and somebody was being harassed about how they play the game, I'd be booting somebody really quick. People like that are what makes friendly environments turn toxic really quick.

Now, if they're telling you what you had done wrong after the fact and made suggestions POLITELY, I don't feel that as being destructive. There's always room for improvement, I say.
 

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I woulda honestly replied to everything he said with a condescending ''okay!'' and a smile, someone who loses to you so consistenly has no place trying to judge your level of play, that is just absolutely ridiculous.

As for the question in itself, you just gotta remain humble and let your playing talk for you! trash talk back to people you know are just doing it in a friendly way. That's about it really.
 

GooberGaming

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Hello! I was wondering if anyone here has any good advice about how to deal with trash talk. Not the friendly banter but more so someone who straight out insults you.

I had a run in a few weeks ago while I was playing with a friend. He brought along some people he knew and we all started doing 1v1s. During my match with one of them, they started to say I'm just a bad player and that "you need to stop doing this and this" with no suggestions on how to improve. This struck a cord in me since in the 25-30 games me and him played, he won maybe 4. Even after that when he was just watching all he did was say I'm a bad player and I shouldn't be playing despite the outcome of the match

It has seriously been bothering me and I can't find the energy to play as much recently. Any suggestions to help out would be much appreciated.
Honestly, if your playing against someone who points out "Flaws" without giving proper feedback while you are winning the majority of matches. Just ignore the trash talk, and consider him a salty player with a negative attitude. Players like that really ruin playing friendly fun matches.

If it really bothers you, call him out on his salty behaviour and ask that him to pass the controller to someone else because he's being a negative Nancy and needs to take a break...
 

Octavium

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Trashtalking is a manipulation so you can't fall into their game, a good way to deal with it is make it look like it never got to you in the first place, smile, laugh and call them out on things. ex:''Why you so mad?'' ''You could've DI-ed that, I thought you said you were good.'' ''You should probably stop, you're starting to sound like you might cry'' etc

When someone trashtalks it usually means they have crappy self confidence and want to push and pull on you to make them feel better. The best way to deal with it would be to straight out win, because people that simple would only understand something as black and white as winning and loosing. If you can't win, which could happen because they might be spending all their time on smash because of low self esteem, then you could just ignore them completely.

If you're feeling mean, you could ask them about themselves, people love to talk about themselves, then you could make mean remarks about some of their life choices. (I would not recommend that, but if you really feel like they're toxic to the point where you need to get them back, going after someone's weak points are your best options).
 
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The best thing you can do, and I mean the BEST thing--is to just beat him. MM him, whatever. Just kick his ass in this game.

And if you can't do that, then just pay him no mind.

That's just about as simple as it gets.
 

lunaticz0r

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check out some twitch streams if you need advice, just viewer battle a few people and youll get better fast because most of them give you instant feedback over the stream :)
this is how i got my lil mac to a higher lvl than before!
 
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CaptainFalcon89

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I tend to ignore it and just focus on my own game, it worked at Insomnia56.

Very satisfying to put the trash talker in their place!
 

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Think about it this way:

If you're a bad player and he consistently loses to you, what does that make him? Present this argument to him in front of all his friends and then lol yourself off into the sunset.
 

im just peachy

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honestly? i trash talk back lol. I'm not just going to sit there and let them call me stuff
 
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