I was playing some friendlies with a sheik today and he got in the lead then started camping side b. He was really good at controlling it and was able to keep it out at full range, which is farther than any of marth's attacks, and he could whip it back and forth fast enough that there was no opening to dash in and punish. He also was very patient and willing to just time me out if I didn't approach. I tried jumping in with ff aerials, but the chain beat them. I tried double jumping/using platforms to get over sheik and come down on the other side, but that gave him enough to pull in the chain, turn around, and do it again. I tried dashing into it, shielding, and using shield DI to get in, but I got shield poked before I got close enough to sheik to do anything. The only way I was able to get in at all was just running in, eating a bunch of damage, and trying to smash DI the chain inwards then grabbing once I'm close enough. But I took a lot of damage this way and I couldn't even get the grab 100% consistent because sometimes I would get hit out of startup or something. And even if I do get the grab, I'd rather not have to take all that damage if I'm already down a stock.
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How to deal with sheik's chain?
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ECHOnce
Smash Lord
To beat a spammy noob, think like a spammy noob. Counter lol
He wasn't a spammy noob; He's actually better than me, and he also wasn't just "spamming," he actually knew how to use the chain effectively. It's just that when he beats me "normaly" I can at least identify what I could have done to beat his options, but I'm asking about the side b because I actually don't know what beats it. Are you sure about counter? It didn't occur to me to try counter because the chain actually has quite a bit of range.
ECHOnce
Smash Lord
If you go in and counter with enough momentum to carry you to him, it should work. But if he catches you too early, it might not reach him. Time the approach so that you pass under/over the chain just as it reaches the extent of its reach, and then counter as he comes back for another attempt to hit you. If he's just stalling with the chain on the ground until you approach, then buffer roll out of a running shield, as Deep2 suggested...which is probably the better option if he's not just some scrub aha. The endlag of Sheik trying to withdraw his chain should be more than enough time for you to grab him out of a roll.
menotyou135
Smash Journeyman
Counter
Roll behind
Dash>Down tilt when whip is in the air
Use a character other than marth for shiek matchup.
Wavedash>Fsmash?
Roll behind
Dash>Down tilt when whip is in the air
Use a character other than marth for shiek matchup.
Wavedash>Fsmash?
Pick Fox and just rapid B from a distance. It'll make him think twice about sitting still. 
But in all seriousness, I'd wait it out if I'm ahead and I have no projectiles. (Unless you're situation does not have a timer. If so then see below.)
If I'm behind, I'd do that run>sheild>roll>Attack/grab that was mentioned above.
But in all seriousness, I'd wait it out if I'm ahead and I have no projectiles. (Unless you're situation does not have a timer. If so then see below.)
If I'm behind, I'd do that run>sheild>roll>Attack/grab that was mentioned above.