How to Deal With Rushdowns: Theory Crafting

[flying_tortoise]

Hey guys so Mewtwo struggles with rushdowns
but that's like every mu xD, at least until you learn how to deal with em properly.
Each character has their own certain way to properly deal with rushdowns, and we need to figure out Mewtwo's proper way. So how about we help each other out, bounce ideas off each other.

Anyone have any ideas?
I just space nair and fade back, waiting for the opponent to mis-space and i can then get something from there...but that's if they gave me room. good ppl dont give you room..

Theory crafting.. For my scenarios I am using a C. Falcon who is right outside your fair zone.
spotdodge ->nair?
jab OoS is usually good for characters against rushdowns. But his jab is so punishable on shield.
Nair OoS and when he tries to punish your landing -> jab?
-with this tho you cannot wait for him to hit your shield, b/c good players will just grab you. so you have to do it right
what does everyone else think?

 

[Hydreigon360]

I'm not sure. Mewtwo jabs and aerials have good range to keep out rush down attackers being all over you. Otherwise I draw blank and can't think of anything specific or unique to Mewtwo.

 

[flying_tortoise]

It seems that M2 will just get comboed.
So best to not get in the situation in the first place.
Using shadow balls to force opponent in air or grab them if they like to shield.
And as much I would like to say spacing aerials they have too much lag.
What I was doing was empty jump -> watching what opponent does and react punish it

 

[pikazz]

a good way to way to keep the rush down at bay is to spam the small shadow ball, since that way they have to approach you diffirently!
also, mewtwo is a good character that can Grab OoS or UpSmash OoS

 

[godogod]

Is it just me or is it much harder to land forward air than melee version. You go more forward at at a horizontal angle.. ehh Anyway, I don't use neutral air often. Trying to figure how to use it but after a spot dodge sounds logical. Gotta remember that.

 

[SuperSwagBros]

Against rushdowns, I just back a bit & use shadowballs,confusion, or bair if they're careless.
Looking for whiffed attacks.

 

[CanadianMegaMan]

Depending on what I think my opponent is going to do, I have a few different reactions.

Against people who like to rush in and dash attack, I usually shield their dash attack and then punish with either disable if theyre in front of me, or ftilt if they are behind me. Sometime, I've been able to time a disable right before their dash attack hits and then ftilt/smash.

Against people who like to grab, I spot dodge, then either grab them, or jab combo into finisher.

Vs people who like to try and short hop aerials, I try and jab combo into finisher, or time a confusion into utilt. If I don't have time I try to block their aerial and punish with jab 1 into disable.

 

[Saikyoshi]

Teleport is your fiend. Horizontally, to the ground, diagonally, in place.

I like to shout "Olé!" When I successfully send someone rushing past me like an idiot using a well-timed Teleport.

 

[NeonSpeed315]

This is how I did it:
Confusion stops their flow and messes up their combos/train of thought while rushing down.
SH retreating nair is good ifyou are in very close quarters. Or just in general.

Small shadowball spam will control the stage and/or your opponent.

Teleport helps you escape juggles or close quarters. Be careful, as doing this in air has major end/land lag.

 

[G-Guy]

so far I really enjoy side tilt,bair and shadow ball against rushdowns. d-tilt is great as well, but side tilt has a bit more range on it.

if i notice characters stricktly running at me, i sometimes go for disable. High risk but high reward

 

[MagiusNecros]

Air dodging right past them or even doing a backwards one right into a Fair might screw em up. Only the Mewtwo knows where he is airdodging. Your opponent don't. Get it in their head you can airdodge in any direction at any time.

 

[TheConfuZzledDude]

You can use teleport to escape any attack really easily. If you're on the ground just tp away, if you're in the air either tp to the ground or angle it so that you slide along the ground (gives you more space, but you can't act as fast as going straight to the ground), and if you're on a platform you can teleport wherever you want

 

[BlazGreen]

Uncharged Shadow Ball makes it difficult for the likes of Falcon, Ganon and DK to get in. Also a fully charged, B reversed Shadow Ball is useful for escaping the corner when in the air.