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How should I get into the habit of good tech skill

Intero

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Just wanted your guys opinions on how I should be doing a few things. I am struggling to DI well do I have to watch my opponent then DI from a read smash or something? With wavelanding should I always fast fall before wavelanding and get into the habit of that? also, with L-Cancelling should I get into the habit of Fast falling every aerial I L-canel? thanks for the advice in advance :)
 

SSS

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Just wanted your guys opinions on how I should be doing a few things. I am struggling to DI well do I have to watch my opponent then DI from a read smash or something? With wavelanding should I always fast fall before wavelanding and get into the habit of that? also, with L-Cancelling should I get into the habit of Fast falling every aerial I L-canel? thanks for the advice in advance :)
DI: A lot of the things you need to react. The first thing you should do is start DI'ing if you know you're about to get punished. Like if you mess up against Marth, DI up so his fsmash doesn't kill you. And during combos just try to DI different ways. DI is weird and sometimes it's intuitive and sometimes you need to do specific DI's for specific combos and situations and you'll learn those.

Wavelanding: I mean I guess you should always fast fall. i don't see why you wouldn't. I guess it depends on the situation and the timing you want and stuff.

Fast-falling: sometimes you should fast fall, sometimes not. it depends on what you're looking for. i'm assuming you play falco, so you should definitely work on always doing late dair and late nair. Meaning fastfall first and then do the aerial low to the ground (late) so that if it hits shield you can immediately get a shine out or something before they can shieldgrab you. if you hit someone's shield high and not low they have like 6 years to shieldgrab you.
 

Intero

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DI: A lot of the things you need to react. The first thing you should do is start DI'ing if you know you're about to get punished. Like if you mess up against Marth, DI up so his fsmash doesn't kill you. And during combos just try to DI different ways. DI is weird and sometimes it's intuitive and sometimes you need to do specific DI's for specific combos and situations and you'll learn those.

Wavelanding: I mean I guess you should always fast fall. i don't see why you wouldn't. I guess it depends on the situation and the timing you want and stuff.

Fast-falling: sometimes you should fast fall, sometimes not. it depends on what you're looking for. i'm assuming you play falco, so you should definitely work on always doing late dair and late nair. Meaning fastfall first and then do the aerial low to the ground (late) so that if it hits shield you can immediately get a shine out or something before they can shieldgrab you. if you hit someone's shield high and not low they have like 6 years to shieldgrab you.
thanks so much for the advice man I really appreciate this advice coming from another falco main :) and that last tip about the late nair because Im always trying to figure out how I can land a shine. also, do I have to L cancel that nair/dair? should I start to L cancel every aerial I throw out?
 

AirFair

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Yeah, a lot of it is grinding once you get the initial techniques down. Just play in more tournaments, and you will be able to use them better in those high pressure situations.
 

Intero

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Yeah, a lot of it is grinding once you get the initial techniques down. Just play in more tournaments, and you will be able to use them better in those high pressure situations.
Sorry, use what in high pressure?
 

AirFair

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techniques. Like, I have a Falco secondary. I played him in tournament and I missed maybe 50% of my waveshines, getting stuck in shine, due to the nerves I had when wanting to win. I ended up winning the set by 2 stocks, but it wasn't very satisfying. Just play more against people is all. Sorry for the confusion.
 

SSS

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thanks so much for the advice man I really appreciate this advice coming from another falco main :) and that last tip about the late nair because Im always trying to figure out how I can land a shine. also, do I have to L cancel that nair/dair? should I start to L cancel every aerial I throw out?
Yes you have to L-cancel. L-cancel everything
 

AirFair

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Bruh if you play a spacie that should not even be a question lmao. But yeah, just lightpress L cancel and you will be fine.
 

Intero

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Bruh if you play a spacie that should not even be a question lmao. But yeah, just lightpress L cancel and you will be fine.
lol Stupid question I know, only had the game for less than a week :p excited to start playing
Yes you have to L-cancel. L-cancel everything
thanks a lot for you advice really appreciate you and AirFair taking the time to help out
 

Beets

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I had a question about button usage.
Is it more efficient to short hop with x, y, or tap jump (if anyone says tap jump I will frankly be surprised and shall require some explanation)?
When should I think about using the c-stick? For all of my aerials? Only for up airs?
L or R?
For rising down airs? Sometimes I run off of a stage with Falco, then tap jump up and press the c-stick down. This is like, the only time I ever use tap jump.
So what do you guys do? What button do you use during a match?

Also if there is another thread that exists that would be better suited for answering this question, please point me in the right direction. :b:
 

Intero

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I had a question about button usage.
Is it more efficient to short hop with x, y, or tap jump (if anyone says tap jump I will frankly be surprised and shall require some explanation)?
When should I think about using the c-stick? For all of my aerials? Only for up airs?
L or R?
For rising down airs? Sometimes I run off of a stage with Falco, then tap jump up and press the c-stick down. This is like, the only time I ever use tap jump.
So what do you guys do? What button do you use during a match?

Also if there is another thread that exists that would be better suited for answering this question, please point me in the right direction. :b:
Me, personally, never use tap jump or the C-stcik and play better without it. Also, either button works they're both the same :p
 

Fortress

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When I first started, there were a few things that I did every day to ensure that I developed a technical edge.

1) I bookmarked this video, and referred to it each day to practice.

2) I read everywhere I could on ssbwiki to not only learn the well-known technology, but the more niche tricks
(I also used it to follow specific players and pick up how they used the tech I was learning)

3) I made a 'practice regiment'; a small book of drills and warmups that I would run through each day. Things like:
  • Short Hop forty times in a row without failing
  • L-Cancel each of your aerials thirty times without failing
  • edgehop for five minutes straight
  • Wavedash from one side of FD to the other six times without failing, with the max distance for your character
  • Run a 'lap' around Battlefield with waveland/dashing (across the bottom to one end, across the platforms to the other side) and beat your best times
Things like that are how I kept my tech skill in shape.
 

Intero

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When I first started, there were a few things that I did every day to ensure that I developed a technical edge.

1) I bookmarked this video, and referred to it each day to practice.

2) I read everywhere I could on ssbwiki to not only learn the well-known technology, but the more niche tricks
(I also used it to follow specific players and pick up how they used the tech I was learning)

3) I made a 'practice regiment'; a small book of drills and warmups that I would run through each day. Things like:
  • Short Hop forty times in a row without failing
  • L-Cancel each of your aerials thirty times without failing
  • edgehop for five minutes straight
  • Wavedash from one side of FD to the other six times without failing, with the max distance for your character
  • Run a 'lap' around Battlefield with waveland/dashing (across the bottom to one end, across the platforms to the other side) and beat your best times
Things like that are how I kept my tech skill in shape.
Obviously can tell you spared no time trying to be a solid player haha
 

Beets

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When I first started, there were a few things that I did every day to ensure that I developed a technical edge.

1) I bookmarked this video, and referred to it each day to practice.

2) I read everywhere I could on ssbwiki to not only learn the well-known technology, but the more niche tricks
(I also used it to follow specific players and pick up how they used the tech I was learning)

3) I made a 'practice regiment'; a small book of drills and warmups that I would run through each day. Things like:
  • Short Hop forty times in a row without failing
  • L-Cancel each of your aerials thirty times without failing
  • edgehop for five minutes straight
  • Wavedash from one side of FD to the other six times without failing, with the max distance for your character
  • Run a 'lap' around Battlefield with waveland/dashing (across the bottom to one end, across the platforms to the other side) and beat your best times
Things like that are how I kept my tech skill in shape.
How in the WORLD am I the only one to like this post thus far?
 

Fortress

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Another thing that you need to do if you're going to get better; record yourself, watch your matches, and grab a notebook. Each time the game goes from switching from the neutral game to a conversion, list at what time it happened, how it happened, what you were doing at the time, and what the end result was before the game returned to neutral. You'll quickly identify in writing "how does my opponent keep getting the upper hand?" You'll answer questions like, "what moves am I using too much?", "what moves never seem to start conversions in my favor?", "am I being knocked down or tech chased in the same way each time?".

It's a sure-fire way to root out bad habits that you might not even know you have.
 

AUS

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Honestly how I was able to go from the rolling scrub that I once was to begin using tech skill was facing bots and making sure I never rolled but only wavedashed to get anywhere and L-canceled all moves. The reason why I suggest this is when first using tech skill its quite hard and when facing an actual human player you are usually going to want to back on your fundamentals to win the match.
 
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