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How do you use a C-Stick with the Pro Controller?

Ultimastrike

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This is frustrating me to some extent, considering I'm still transitioning from the 3DS. It's giving me plenty of problems, and I'm already throwing away matches that I should've won. How in the world do I even use a C-Stick?
 

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This question doesn't even make sense to me. You use the c-stick by pressing it in a direction. It does a smash attack assuming you are standing still when you press it.
 

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This is frustrating me to some extent, considering I'm still transitioning from the 3DS. It's giving me plenty of problems, and I'm already throwing away matches that I should've won. How in the world do I even use a C-Stick?
I'm pretty sure you would've lost either way. If you don't know how to use a c stick then there is a high chance that you were never going to win that match.
 

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I'm pretty sure you would've lost either way. If you don't know how to use a c stick then there is a high chance that you were never going to win that match.
That's not always the case, you know. You shouldn't always assume the C-Stick is he be-all-end-all of Smash. I'd at least want to learn how to use it strategically rather than not know what to do with it.
 

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That's not always the case, you know. You shouldn't always assume the C-Stick is he be-all-end-all of Smash. I'd at least want to learn how to use it strategically rather than not know what to do with it.
the c stick lets you smash the direction you press it. If you hold it in the direction it will charge the smash until you let it go.

it also does aerials while you are in the air.
 

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That's not always the case, you know. You shouldn't always assume the C-Stick is he be-all-end-all of Smash. I'd at least want to learn how to use it strategically rather than not know what to do with it.
For the most part it's what you'd expect it to be, It's to augment or supplement your playstyle/moves

Some people want the accuracy of using a c stick for smashes at critical moments rather than inputting the smash commands and having something else come out

I don't know if you can pivot grab or reverse grab in smash 4 but you can use the c stick, (normal thumb movement stick works too, I think) in project m and brawl, (if not mistaken) to do so

For instance; Dash>up smash is easy to do with a C stick
 
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The C-Stick default function is to allow you to perform or charge a smash attack in the direction you pushed it in. However, on the Pro Controller, the C-Stick is the right stick.
 

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OP, I think you should set L to Jump, that way you don't have to press jump and then the c stick with just your right thumb. Assuming you're using X/Y to short hop.

I'm assuming, he's having problems when pressing the jump button then going to the right stick fast.
 
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That shouldn't be that much of an issue, though. X button is so close to the stick, it's really easy to jump and then hit the stick for an aerial. Even easier than the GameCube controller could hope to make it.
 

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That's not always the case, you know. You shouldn't always assume the C-Stick is he be-all-end-all of Smash. I'd at least want to learn how to use it strategically rather than not know what to do with it.
I'll be nice, because is that what people deserves.
The C-stick should be used to improve your reaction-time, your agility to start any attack that is possible with it.
Why ?Because with a C-stick you need only ONE input to use some attack.

Let's take a Down Smash as example: If you need to press Down+A, you need a more restrict and hard input than simply put your second analog in the down direction.If you miss the timing, you can input a Down Tilt with Down+A, what you can't do with the C-stick (You can, but you would need to input down with the movement analog too, what is harder to mess).

Now guessing you're already know why is the better option but have problems to do it.
Train yourself at using the C-stick always you can. Always on the air, except when using the Neutral air.
Soon you will get it. It's a bit of intuitive.
You will still use A when you want to tilt and jab, I'm used to dash attack with C-stick now too.
Don't give up of the C-stick.

Why?
A lot of techniques are exclusive for the c-stick in previous entries of the franchise.
With the c-stick is easy to jump forward and do a back aerial, or jump backwards and use a front aerial, what is a commom space tool. C-stick helps you to use attacks while fast-falling, together with a jump, and many other situations.
Get used to it.Train hard. I believe in you <o\
 

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That's not always the case, you know. You shouldn't always assume the C-Stick is he be-all-end-all of Smash. I'd at least want to learn how to use it strategically rather than not know what to do with it.
I'm implying that the logic you stayed abou the severity of beating another player is flawed.

You don't know what a c stick is so you probably don't know any advanced mechanics in the game so you're probably very new to the series so you shouldn't be stating your victorys as if you've been playing the game for years and understand the physics or mechanics of a very deep game such as smash bros.

A player using a c stick against a player who doesn't use it doesn't mean that the player using it will win all the time. But that player has the most advantages and a considerably higher chance of winning than a person who doesn't.

A more vivid comparison would be L Canceling vs not L canceling. That however is a more extreme example.

C Stick has been bread and butter since Melee and that hasn't changed. It grants way too many advantages to not use it.
 

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I'm implying that the logic you stayed abou the severity of beating another player is flawed.

You don't know what a c stick is so you probably don't know any advanced mechanics in the game so you're probably very new to the series so you shouldn't be stating your victorys as if you've been playing the game for years and understand the physics or mechanics of a very deep game such as smash bros.

A player using a c stick against a player who doesn't use it doesn't mean that the player using it will win all the time. But that player has the most advantages and a considerably higher chance of winning than a person who doesn't.

A more vivid comparison would be L Canceling vs not L canceling. That however is a more extreme example.

C Stick has been bread and butter since Melee and that hasn't changed. It grants way too many advantages to not use it.
Well excuse me Mr. Know-It-All. I may not have been playing the game for years since Brawl, but I do know how to Smash. The OP stated that I was transitioning from the 3DS to the Wii Pro Controller, so of course there can be some difficulty. I know what a C-Stick is, it's just I need to learn how to use it.

Also, I never stated ANY victories of any sort in this thread. What does that have to do with anything? It's just how the character is played, is all. Regardless, I think what @ New_Dumal New_Dumal said above really helped to some extent. Thanks for the tips. If I get stuck...I'll probably just run over here again.
 

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Well excuse me Mr. Know-It-All. I may not have been playing the game for years since Brawl, but I do know how to Smash. The OP stated that I was transitioning from the 3DS to the Wii Pro Controller, so of course there can be some difficulty. I know what a C-Stick is, it's just I need to learn how to use it.

Also, I never stated ANY victories of any sort in this thread. What does that have to do with anything? It's just how the character is played, is all. Regardless, I think what @ New_Dumal New_Dumal said above really helped to some extent. Thanks for the tips. If I get stuck...I'll probably just run over here again.
I'm not a know it all, you're just wrong. And sensitive. Also, c sticks have been available since Melee. You had 13 years to know what a c stick is. Since YOU don't, YOU probably aren't good at the game.

I'd money match you against anyone who knows what a c stick is and I assure you that you'd lose every time.

You're speaking from a place of inexperience because you obviously have no idea the gain you get from just using a c stick. It opens up so many options that you actually can't perform without.

It's almost offensive that you are arguing against a mechanic that has been in the game longer than you've been playing.
 

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I'm implying that the logic you stayed abou the severity of beating another player is flawed.

You don't know what a c stick is so you probably don't know any advanced mechanics in the game so you're probably very new to the series so you shouldn't be stating your victorys as if you've been playing the game for years and understand the physics or mechanics of a very deep game such as smash bros.

A player using a c stick against a player who doesn't use it doesn't mean that the player using it will win all the time. But that player has the most advantages and a considerably higher chance of winning than a person who doesn't.

A more vivid comparison would be L Canceling vs not L canceling. That however is a more extreme example.

C Stick has been bread and butter since Melee and that hasn't changed. It grants way too many advantages to not use it.
Just going to go out on a limb and say that I never used the C-stick in melee and only used the c-stick for Ice Climber grab smashes in brawl (retreating aerials were not part of my brawl/melee game). I knew it was there, but I felt more comfortable with normal smash inputs because then you could charge them (not with grab, which is not intuitive). I could DACUS just fine without it (Snake was my main) and I wasn't super good, but I beat plenty of people in melee/brawl who loved to c-stick spam and lived by the c-stick. Even now, I don't use the c-stick unless I need to in order to do retreating FAirs/BAirs or c-stick NAirs because I feel like my hands can be precise enough to input a smash attack when I want a smash attack.

Did I miss out on some AT's that required more c-stick use? Possibly. But does that mean I was a bad player? Not at all. Fundamentals are simply more important.
 

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Simple. Use the right analog stick (works as C-Pad on pro controller). It's great for a quick power move, which is what I'd use it for at first and then slowly work it in to your combos to figure out what you need to do with it. It's a great way to finish a combo out and deliver a killing blow.
 
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