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how do you slide to the other side wen chain grabing

Boom!boxx

Smash Rookie
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Sep 5, 2008
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hi i just started playing falco how do u slide to the other side when u chain grab to switch direction of were yer chain grabin like what i see on vids
 

GenesisJLS

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The pivot grab is executed easiest by starting off with a down throw then smash the control stick in the direction of the opponent, then as soon as you pass your opponent smash the control stick in the opposite direction and press grab simultaneously. It takes about 5 minutes to learn, good luck. Also, here is a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyzRIRTHYk
 

Fluke

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The pivot grab is executed easiest by starting off with a down throw then smash the control stick in the direction of the opponent, then as soon as you pass your opponent smash the control stick in the opposite direction and press grab simultaneously. It takes about 5 minutes to learn, good luck. Also, here is a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyzRIRTHYk
Yes that is a PIVOT GRAB.

But the one you posted in the vid is a BOOST Pivot Grab.

From Enochuout's guide.
#4.8 Boost Pivot Grabbing:
This technique utilizes the same concept as the boost smash; however, rather than canceling the dash attack with an up smash, you cancel it with a pivot grab. A pivot grab is when you are running one direction and then smash the opposite direction on the analog stick as you grab.

This technique does have a few downsides. Although it looks like you get a lot of range, you really don’t. This is because Falco’s grab hitbox is a bit in front of him and only lasts a split second. If you start the boost pivot grab at a distance, when you are sliding through your opponent, the hitbox misses them. The only way to get the boost pivot grab to land is to align your opponent with the hitbox. To do this, you need to start the boost pivot grab just in front of them. Another down side is that just like when you try to stand too close to
another character and get moved back, while you are sliding past your opponent, you are also pushing them aside. This further diminishes the range of this move because you will sometimes end up pushing them behind you and out of your grab range. Also note that you can be hit out of this.

The only way I’ve found around the first two issues (the third is always a problem) is to use this technique when your opponent is in the air. Your sliding past won’t push them aside anymore, and Falco’s grab hitbox seems to be slightly bigger against aerial opponents. With this in mind, viable applications for the technique are much easier to find; my favorite being... If you happen reach the edge during a chaingrab before reaching the damage limit for the chaingrab, you can use a boost pivot grab to change directions of the chaingrab. Just be sure to give yourself enough room before hitting the edge. To demonstrate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYTSfToYlLc
Actually: if you don't even know what BOOST SMASHING is, then http://www.allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?id=23232.


In short.

Dash attack cancelled into a pivot grab.
 

GMo

Smash Apprentice
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Sep 7, 2008
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Norman, OK
If done correctly this is a way to change the direction of the chaingrab?

As in, it is inescapable for members of the cast who can be chaingrabbed?

I've been using the dash pivot grab and they can sometimes escape.

EDIT: Also, vs Marth you can walking chaingrab and not eat a DS in the face?
 
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