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How do you play the ZSS Matchup?

JFyst

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So i've been playing for a little while, and while playing I meet this ZSS, who bodies me, she had a bread and butter that was pretty amazing, which was camp gunshot into grab into up airs then up b, in low ceiling stages I died at like 40%, couldn't take a stock, I had no idea what I could have done to get out of it, After the set, found myself thinking Does sonic have anything crazy like that? What do you do in this situation?
 

ROOOOY!

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Don't shield paralyzer. It's SO easy to deal with it's not even funny.

Either our matchup thread needs to be changed to 'ASK ABOUT SPECIFIC MATCHUPS HERE' then we start a focused one, or I don't know. Because half our threads on here are about a specific matchup.

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Espy Rose

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Don't shield paralyzer. It's SO easy to deal with it's not even funny.

Either our matchup thread needs to be changed to 'ASK ABOUT SPECIFIC MATCHUPS HERE' then we start a focused one, or I don't know. Because half our threads on here are about a specific matchup.

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How do you deal with paralyzer? :applejack:
 

infomon

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I need to remember to kill projectiles by hitting them. Just to be aware of that option.

In this case though, paralyzer's so slow, just run away. Or even walk away. Camp for days :)
 

JFyst

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I need to remember to kill projectiles by hitting them. Just to be aware of that option.

In this case though, paralyzer's so slow, just run away. Or even walk away. Camp for days :)
Wait can i use tilts to clang with her projectiles?
 
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Camalange

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Wait can i use tilts to clang with her projectiles?
You can for some.

Also Sonic's Side-B hop pretty much plows through anything and everything. It's invincible.

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ROOOOY!

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How do you deal with paralyzer? :applejack:
Pretty much what Infzy said. She's not got a long range game of any worth (mid range is dece though) so running away doesn't put you at a disadvantage. Side B as Cam said, hell if you see it coming just hop and do an uncharged HA cos it's hella slow. I'mma have a play around and see what it clanks with. Those are probably the best options though. My main point was that shielding it is the worst thing you can do, well aside of getting hit by it, cos it turns you into her grab bait *****.

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MeekSpeedy

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I'll be the devils advocate and say that shielding isn't a bad response. She has lag after firing the paralyzer, she can't sync her grab on your shield the same time the paralyzer is hitting your shield. If you KNOW they're going to grab, you can spotdodge or roll the tether grab and get punish accordingly. If they're stupid, they'll keep falling for the spotdodge, and have a loss for what to do. And if they're not stupid, you're conditioning them into expecting a spotdodge, which can decide your next course of action. Not to discredit what others have put, though. Everyone else is also correct. There's more than 1 proper response to dealing with things. ^_^

If you know what somebody is going to do, all you have to do is think, and you'll win.
 
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