I looked up videos on techniques but I can't figure out how to use them by practicing on my own. I have no one to play against so I have to practice on my own. I know I can't do training because of the c stick and I try to practice against a controller with no player or a level 1 computer but I can't learn combos and anything defensive this way. What's the best way to learn these?
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How do I get better without playing people?
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Elyssa Xey Hexen
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The truth is there really is not a good substitute for a human opponent. At the very least if you had a good deal of practice against human opponents you could do a form of shadow boxing with the CPU. You would have enough basis on what a human might do in several situations that you could put the CPU in that position and practice evaluating what would be the best thing for you to do in those situations.
Otherwise, without much human interaction the best you can really do is practice tech skill and some rudimentary idea of what combos you can do. Worry about ironing out how to properly apply the stuff you do later when you get human opponents.
For example, if you are playing as Marth you can still do stuff like Short hop fast fall forward aerial and dash out of it against hitting nothing and hitting an opponent. Or set CPU to lv1 to 9 and test out the CG on various DI methods. Get creative in somethings. I think playing against a lv1 to lv9 CPU is better than facing a controller with no person on it. At the very least the CPU can occasionally punish you for your mistakes or DI at least a little bit to give you the sense of what you need to combat.
Otherwise, without much human interaction the best you can really do is practice tech skill and some rudimentary idea of what combos you can do. Worry about ironing out how to properly apply the stuff you do later when you get human opponents.
For example, if you are playing as Marth you can still do stuff like Short hop fast fall forward aerial and dash out of it against hitting nothing and hitting an opponent. Or set CPU to lv1 to 9 and test out the CG on various DI methods. Get creative in somethings. I think playing against a lv1 to lv9 CPU is better than facing a controller with no person on it. At the very least the CPU can occasionally punish you for your mistakes or DI at least a little bit to give you the sense of what you need to combat.
I practice shffls but I still can't use them in matches
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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I am not certain what you mean by not using them in a match. You can certainly attempt it in your matches with CPUs and get practice that way.
AirFair
Marth tho
You have to play people more, it gets you to notice habits, and it's just better for your growth as a player. You are hardly going to find any one who is good from cpu practice.
Dolla Pills
Smash Ace
The thing is you can grind tech skill all day and be the most technical player at home when you're facing computers, but if you don't face human opponents then you will probably lock up when you do and on top of that you will not know how to utilize the techniques in a real game.
Now, there are things you can do by yourself. Number one is grind tech skill. You might be thinking that's silly because of what I just said, but you do need to know how to do tech if you are going to try and implement it. Number two is to work on your movement, so like look up videos of top players and try to emulate how they move around the stage. Like I said before, when you first start playing against real people this won't help much at all but the foundation will serve you later on.
I would actually try to not focus on comboing computers that much because you will learn very bad habits since you don't know how people play and react. Do it a little bit so you know how your moves work and how you can potentially link them together, but don't get too into it.
You really need to find people to play. There are many ways to do this but it kinda depends on your age and where you live and your transportation availability, so I'm not sure what to suggest. If you're still in school you can try to get your friends interested and then learn with them, or start a smash club to try to attract any players in your area or new players who want to learn. It's summer now, so maybe that's hard but it does leave you more availabl to travel to play with people. If you're in college finding people should be no issue (with the exception of it being summer). If you're out of college join a smash FaceBook group in your area since you should be free to travel places.
Now, there are things you can do by yourself. Number one is grind tech skill. You might be thinking that's silly because of what I just said, but you do need to know how to do tech if you are going to try and implement it. Number two is to work on your movement, so like look up videos of top players and try to emulate how they move around the stage. Like I said before, when you first start playing against real people this won't help much at all but the foundation will serve you later on.
I would actually try to not focus on comboing computers that much because you will learn very bad habits since you don't know how people play and react. Do it a little bit so you know how your moves work and how you can potentially link them together, but don't get too into it.
You really need to find people to play. There are many ways to do this but it kinda depends on your age and where you live and your transportation availability, so I'm not sure what to suggest. If you're still in school you can try to get your friends interested and then learn with them, or start a smash club to try to attract any players in your area or new players who want to learn. It's summer now, so maybe that's hard but it does leave you more availabl to travel to play with people. If you're in college finding people should be no issue (with the exception of it being summer). If you're out of college join a smash FaceBook group in your area since you should be free to travel places.
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Buy a 3DS or Wii U and go on FG, even though they are different games you will understand how people react to moves rather than how a bot reacts. That's what I did before I found my local community but by then I was already decent!
Learn how to be a True Champion.
Then, you will find that you have plenty of people to train with the entire day. Have 2,000 people in your school? There's 2,000 people to money match.
Then, you will find that you have plenty of people to train with the entire day. Have 2,000 people in your school? There's 2,000 people to money match.
NGUY (guitarstage)
Smash Journeyman
20XX might help you to get your tech skill
X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
Get net play and play people that way.
I'm actually gonna get a new computer for netplay but I don't know if I'll have good enough techniques to actually learn from it so I'm working on that first
X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
Practice tech skill on your own. Watch videos. Incoporate what you practiced and watched into your games on netplay
Agreed. Being able to do tech alone is much different than being able to effectively incorporate it into your play.
SwisshySwaash
Smash Apprentice
i had this trouble with all l-cancelling with mario. Just try to l-cancel as late as possible, because you might whiff, hit an opponent, or hit a shield, and need to time your l-cancel accordingly.
AudioSilver
Smash Journeyman
The way I learned how to combo started in Brawl with Ike, by watching Ike combo videos. So, I don't know. I would suggest watching at least one combo video a day of your main.