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How can I Daroki Wall jump (edge instant wall jump)??????

o0silentshadow0o

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I have a serious trouble with this technique, and I tried to look at videos, but none were informing. So I was wondering if someone can help me to do this technique.

Also really important, can someone show a way to Daroki wall jump with Sheiks Up-B (maybe rubbing it against the wall some way)? I would seriously appreciate if someone showed me how to do it.
 

Stride

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Thank you, but I already looked at that, and I tried, but I only get it sometimes :/. I was looking for a good detailed video on it - if there is one :/-, but either way thanks again for trying to help . :)
You're not going to find nor need much more detail than that; it has clear step-by-step instructions and a slow-motion video that you can play frame-by frame. If you can only get it sometimes then you just need to practice more.
 

ECHOnce

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Whoa wtf. The reverse doraki walljump vid...Melee is so busted LOL. Only things I can come up with for Sheik would be:

Dropping from ledge, falling back, and double jumping back to ledge M2K Marth-style (rub above sweetspot).

Dropping from ledge (straight down), double jump back up, charge needles to rub against the ledge as you pass (ensures you don't sweetspot by accident), and then canceling and grabbing ledge. Just a guess, idk if it works as easily as it sounds.​

Not sure if I missed this being answered somewhere in the reddit thread, but do you regain your double jump after grabbing ledge and doraki wall jumping?? It'd make sense that way, but with the walljump only working because given that this messes with the game registering you as in a previous character state...idk lol.
 
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o0silentshadow0o

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Whoa wtf. The reverse doraki walljump vid...Melee is so busted LOL. Only things I can come up with for Sheik would be:

Dropping from ledge, falling back, and double jumping back to ledge M2K Marth-style (rub above sweetspot).

Dropping from ledge (straight down), double jump back up, charge needles to rub against the ledge as you pass (ensures you don't sweetspot by accident), and then canceling and grabbing ledge. Just a guess, idk if it works as easily as it sounds.​

Not sure if I missed this being answered somewhere in the reddit thread, but do you regain your double jump after grabbing ledge and doraki wall jumping?? It'd make sense that way, but with the walljump only working because given that this messes with the game registering you as in a previous character state...idk lol.

Thank you, also yes you do keep your double jump, it's literally a better version of Scar Jumping.
 

Spak

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Actually you can, I think it's much easier to do as well since you get more height.
But you can make it to the ledge and can grab it, why would you stall for Randall? Scar jumping can be used on Yoshi's to buy time for either a safe chance for the ledge or wait for Randall to come because you can't make it to ledge; Dokari has different uses then Scar Jumping.
 

o0silentshadow0o

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But you can make it to the ledge and can grab it, why would you stall for Randall? Scar jumping can be used on Yoshi's to buy time for either a safe chance for the ledge or wait for Randall to come because you can't make it to ledge; Dokari has different uses then Scar Jumping.
Fair enough, but could you think of other uses Scar jumping has over Daroki Walljump? Because with Daroki you can extend very far both vertically and horizontally, allowing for more efficient edge guarding; limiting your opponents options to recover far more (not to mention how safe it is). While Scar jumping is a gimp you can get once, and when caught on can be punished harshly.
 
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Spak

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Fair enough, but could you think of other uses Scar jumping has over Daroki Walljump? Because with Daroki you can extend very far both vertically and horizontally allowing for more efficient edge guarding; limiting your opponents options to recover far more, not to mention how safe it is. While Scar jumping is a gimp you can get once, and when caught on can be punished harshly.
No, but I was refuting the statement of it being a better version of scar Jumping, not it being better for edgeguards. Plus, there are very few instances where using either would be the best option because of the setup required to use them effectively.
 

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No, but I was refuting the statement of it being a better version of scar Jumping, not it being better for edgeguards. Plus, there are very few instances where using either would be the best option because of the setup required to use them effectively.

Well alrighty, that's understandable :). But I would have to disagree with you saying that Daroki Wall jump has very few uses, in my opinion it is a amazing tech that is extremely versatile and effective. It when mastered can be set up very fast, and if implemented into to competitive scene, would change the Meta for edge-guarding, recovering, and certain match-ups; as well as bump up characters with wall-jumps since only they can do it.

But again, it is just my opinion. lol
 
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