Green Zelda
Smash Journeyman
Buenas tardes, amigos! Hope you've been having a fine April!
Just a disclaimer, although I ask some questions in this post, this is also a discussion thread, so feel free to post below "how you'd run things if you were in charge".
Now, tiers have always existed in nearly every competitive game to date, and smash 4 obviously isn't an exception. You can google pictures of old, unofficial ones (created near the time of the game's official release), there's the official 4BR list, and heck, there's even a public one on this forum section!
However, tier lists almost never stay the same, especially in smash 4, a game with balance patches every few weeks/months. Occasionally, people's views of characters change, which makes certain ones move up or down throughout the 5 (I think..) biggest "divisions" of the lists; top, high, mid, low, and bottom.
This leaves me with quite a few questions. Do these lists (and if YOU were in charge of making the next official one, would you..) rank characters based on how good he/she is? Or how good they are in the current metagame? (ex: many people think highly of yoshi, but he doesn't have good representation. Does he belong/would you put him high up there? Or leave him in the "mid tier", which leads to my next question.)
What do the individual tiers mean, and if you made the next list, what would you make them mean? I may be wrong on this (correct me if I am, please), but the 4BR one makes them sorta seem like this: top = the best of the best, high = very good, mid = ok, low = pretty bad, bottom = trash
However, when ZeRo made his 1.1.4 tier list, this is basically what he made them represent (again, please correct me if I'm wrong about this): top = proven to be the meta's greatest threats, high = also threatening, but not as much as the top tier, and mid = "has the potential, but not the results". Which way is the correct way, and is there even a "correct way?"
Finally, which matters most, results, theory, or representation? A while back when Abadango dropped wario, you could see a lot of people say things like, "Oh man, poor Wario mains. He's definitely going to fall on the tier lists now!" But how does a character losing representation automatically make them bad?
Thank you for reading this; I'm sorry it was so long. Again, post how you feel about this below!
THE TIER LISTS DISCUSSED ABOVE:
Just a disclaimer, although I ask some questions in this post, this is also a discussion thread, so feel free to post below "how you'd run things if you were in charge".
Now, tiers have always existed in nearly every competitive game to date, and smash 4 obviously isn't an exception. You can google pictures of old, unofficial ones (created near the time of the game's official release), there's the official 4BR list, and heck, there's even a public one on this forum section!
However, tier lists almost never stay the same, especially in smash 4, a game with balance patches every few weeks/months. Occasionally, people's views of characters change, which makes certain ones move up or down throughout the 5 (I think..) biggest "divisions" of the lists; top, high, mid, low, and bottom.
This leaves me with quite a few questions. Do these lists (and if YOU were in charge of making the next official one, would you..) rank characters based on how good he/she is? Or how good they are in the current metagame? (ex: many people think highly of yoshi, but he doesn't have good representation. Does he belong/would you put him high up there? Or leave him in the "mid tier", which leads to my next question.)
What do the individual tiers mean, and if you made the next list, what would you make them mean? I may be wrong on this (correct me if I am, please), but the 4BR one makes them sorta seem like this: top = the best of the best, high = very good, mid = ok, low = pretty bad, bottom = trash
However, when ZeRo made his 1.1.4 tier list, this is basically what he made them represent (again, please correct me if I'm wrong about this): top = proven to be the meta's greatest threats, high = also threatening, but not as much as the top tier, and mid = "has the potential, but not the results". Which way is the correct way, and is there even a "correct way?"
Finally, which matters most, results, theory, or representation? A while back when Abadango dropped wario, you could see a lot of people say things like, "Oh man, poor Wario mains. He's definitely going to fall on the tier lists now!" But how does a character losing representation automatically make them bad?
Thank you for reading this; I'm sorry it was so long. Again, post how you feel about this below!
THE TIER LISTS DISCUSSED ABOVE:
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