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He's killing her and she's letting him

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Mandalore

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So I have a friend who has a boyfriend. A horrible one, at that. We'll call her Rachel.

So Rachel and her boyfriend (Let's go with Ian) have been going out for a while. Like, half a year or so. They seemed like the happiest couple when they first started going out.

Let's fast-forward to about two months later. He's devolved from the best guy ever to a self-absorbed prick. He no longer calls her, he doesn't tell her that he loves her, he won't even listen to her problems. "Don't talk to me about emotions, you're going to piss me off" and the like. So Rachel asks him if she has a place in his life. He says no and threatens to break up with her if she doesn't shut up about her problems.

What's worse about this is that he blames all his problems on her, and she believes him. Ian pushes all the blame on their downhill relationship on her. Apparently she's at fault because she doesn't put effort into their relationship, although I (and many others) see it as the other way around.

Rachel comes to my house every Friday to hang out; of course, it's mostly been for her to vent her frustrations as of late. I've told her on an almost daily occasion that she should dump him. Every single time, she reiterates two things: 1- she loves him and 2- if she did, all her friends would hate her because they like Ian more than her. Personally, I would side with her because Ian is a jerk to everyone.

Today is Friday (and will be for the next like five minutes). Rachel came over at about five, crying her eyes out because of something Ian said to her. So she cried on my shoulder for about two hours, then when she calmed down we watched Monster in Law together. Now she's up in my room sleeping and I thought, "This is a great time to ask SMASHBOARDS for advice. Because you guys have the answer to everything."


She doesn't understand that he's just going to end up hurting her emotionally over and over again. I've told her time and time again to dump him and she refuses to listen to me. What should I tell her? Should I just give up on helping her?
(And since I know it will probably be suggested, no- I'm not going to touch her while she's sleeping.)
 

Cinder

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There's a dating advice thread...but this sounds like a horrible situation...I would try and help as much as you can...maybe if she dumps him, you can stand up for her...idk...I feel really bad...I can't help too much...but I would say she shouldn't be in such a destructive relationship...if her friends really care, they'll see what he's doing to her...

Best of luck, dude...
 

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First of all, do you have feelings for her? I couldn't tell from your post. If you do, don't try to swoop down and pick her up from this by trying to court her. That's not what she needs, nor is it probably what she wants. Time for you to talk about feelings after she's come to terms with the relationship.

Personally, I'd stop telling her to break up with him. Instead, I'd just try to talk to her about the relationship, without telling her what to do. See why she's still with him. If it turns out that despite all this, she still just loves the guy, then there will be very little you can do. Though no one ever follows online advice, so eh.
 

Formula1

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I mean does she like anything else except... ya know.... the S word, the birds and the bees?

If she does just hang out with her for a day doing that instead, and make her feel comfortable enough to think that she doesn't need "Ian" to like her life........

I question how many hearts she had broken in the process of getting this "perfect" dude,
Girls I know would deny any guy except those on "high Tier"

And once those guys cheat on them and don't care about them they stick with them since every other guy is "low tier"

I honestly feel sorry for the girl and yet I wonder how much she had it coming to her
 

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I mean does she like anything else except... ya know.... the S word, the birds and the bees?

If she does just hang out with her for a day doing that instead, and make her feel comfortable enough to think that she doesn't need "Ian" to like her life........

I question how many hearts she had broken in the process of getting this "perfect" dude,
Girls I know would deny any guy except those on "high Tier"

And once those guys cheat on them and don't care about them they stick with them since every other guy is "low tier"

I honestly feel sorry for the girl and yet I wonder how much she had it coming to her
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding you, but that seems really insensitive...

Is it just me, or did you just tell him to just up and have sex with the girl? What is wrong with you O_o? Did Mandalore even say the word sex? How can you assume that's the kind of thing she's in to? For all we know, she could be a virgin...besides, if she is like that, what kind of sleazebag would sleep with a friend just to take her mind off a jerk...that's called taking advantage of her...I assume that's not what Mandalore has in mind...
 

Formula1

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I don't think anywhere I say just sleep with the girl,
I said, I wouldn't be suprised that she's only with him for stupid purposes, and to give her something thats more fun (watching TV, Taking Runs) would be better for her.
-But usually girls depend on social relationships for comfort, making them vulnerable...

I am insensitive, but not completely
I offer solutions, however I'm a realist,
The girl may choose guys for the wrong reasons, what else would she expect

As for the dude who wrote the post,
Is this dude the kind you can approach, It seems not.
He's a d-bag, Woman just seem attracted by that, sorry you had to see it first hand
But this is a learning oppertunity for you, to help her out, you can learn to help everyother girl in a bad relationship where ever you find them
 

Mandalore

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Sorry Cinder, I didn't realise there was a thread on general relationship advice. Last time I looked at that thread I saw a bunch of stuff about internet dating and thought it was on that.

Eor: I don't have feelings for her, we're just good friends; I already have a girlfriend. I'll remember not to tell her to break up with him and try not to push that idea on to her too much. Also, if you feel it is necessary since there is a general relationships thread, close this topic and I'll try getting advice there tomorrow.
 

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I don't think anywhere I say just sleep with the girl,
I said, I wouldn't be suprised that she's only with him for stupid purposes, and to give her something thats more fun would be better for her.

I am insensitive, but not completely
I offer solutions, however I'm a realist,
The girl chooses guys for the wrong reasons, what else would she expect
I mean does she like anything else except... ya know.... the S word, the birds and the bees?

If she does just hang out with her for a day doing that instead, and make her feel comfortable enough to think that she doesn't need "Ian" to like her life........
Ah, I see...must have misinterpreted that statement...my mistake...

@Mandalore: dude, don't apologize >_<...it's cool...I just wanted to make sure ya knew...but yeah, it's gone away from the "internet dating" debate...it's become quite useful...
 

Crimson King

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Use the relationship thread.

But, get the **** out. It's to dangerous a situation. The girl has problems and by moving in you are just taking advantage of that.
 
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