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Here's my Falcon for rating.

elvenarrow3000

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You seem to have this weird aversion to taking hits on your shield... rolling away from attacks or whatever will put you in a less advantage position to punish them. Don't be afraid of having your shield broken or anything, it really rarely happens.

You're not really dash dancing that much so your approaches are kinda linear, but it seems to be working at least against this person. That being said, you should learn to use the dash dance effectively just in case you run into people who... need to have that used against them.

Learning to Meteor Cancel Ganondorf's stomp would be good too.

Oh and after your nairs, you're throwing stationary knees. You have to run forward with the knee, otherwise there's no way you're going to connect. It's a leap of faith, basically, but that's just what you have to do.
 

Ja

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Play someone better and it will be easier to tell what your mistakes are. If you get ganon off the edge and he has to up B he should never make it back. Consistent good utilt timing *****. Mix in with dtilts (gj), bairs and uairs as needed. You can knee his upB, but it's very tricky and isn't reliable.
 

AceDudeyeah

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not Falcon related but meteor canceling, does it also work with side-b's? Marth's and falco's for ex.

yeah, I remembered uptilt edgeguarding last night.
 

Pink Reaper

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The third hit of Marth's forward B if aimed downward is a Meteor Strike. It can be canceled. The only Spikes in the game are Marth's Dair, Falco's Dair, Ganon's aerial Down B, Falcon's Nipple Spike and a certain hitbox on Roy's Usmash. These are the only ones that can't be canceled.
 

elvenarrow3000

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I think he meant like if he could Meteor Cancel with those moves...

Or at least that's how I thought he meant it.
 

battousai555

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The third hit of Marth's forward B if aimed downward is a Meteor Strike. It can be canceled. The only Spikes in the game are Marth's Dair, Falco's Dair, Ganon's aerial Down B, Falcon's Nipple Spike and a certain hitbox on Roy's Usmash. These are the only ones that can't be canceled.
I thought you couldn't cancel pseudo-spikes either.
 

elvenarrow3000

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Semispikes aren't really spikes though... they don't send you very downwards. But the true spikes do.
 

AceDudeyeah

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Yes, I did mean that. Not what ARE the spikes/meteor smash in the game. I already knew about the 3rd hit in Marth's side-b meteor smashes.

I meant what are the the moves that CANCELS the meteor smashes in the game.
Like say Ganon dairs you, can you side B out of it with Marth? What about falco since his side-b causes him to get that free-fall status you have after using your up-b with any character in the air.
 

Pink Reaper

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Yes, I did mean that. Not what ARE the spikes/meteor smash in the game. I already knew about the 3rd hit in Marth's side-b meteor smashes.

I meant what are the the moves that CANCELS the meteor smashes in the game.
Like say Ganon dairs you, can you side B out of it with Marth? What about falco since his side-b causes him to get that free-fall status you have after using your up-b with any character in the air.
You can only Up B or jump out of meteor smashes(assuming you still have your jump left) Interesting side note, you can actually cancel Meteor smashes with Yoshi and Jigglypuff's Up B, despite the fact that they have no upwards momentum.
 

battousai555

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Semispikes aren't really spikes though... they don't send you very downwards. But the true spikes do.
I know that, but Reaper said "These are the only ones that can't be canceled." This is not true, as semi-spikes cannot be cancelled either. This is all I was saying.
 
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