Help With Shiek MU?

[Captain JOHN]

Hi. I'm just another falcon main who sucks at the shiek MU and needs help. Because I'm a lazy person who does none of his own work, could somebody tell me good throw follow-ups on the transgender piece of sh*t? And help with edgeguarding, too. I'm just terrible at the MU and needs the help

 

[Myst0]

read this post it will tell you all about good throws and we all know how falcon loves his throws
http://smashboards.com/threads/up-throw-di-behind-on-sheik.413499/

and also don't get grabbed or your completely screwed dont go to FD EVER. Use platforms don't be afraid to make him approach you sometimes a lot of shieks rely on reacting and grab/tilt -> you dying

 

[Captain JOHN]

thanks @ Myst0 that actually really helps

 

[valakmtnsmash4]

read this post it will tell you all about good throws and we all know how falcon loves his throws
http://smashboards.com/threads/up-throw-di-behind-on-sheik.413499/

and also don't get grabbed or your completely screwed dont go to FD EVER. Use platforms don't be afraid to make him approach you sometimes a lot of shieks rely on reacting and grab/tilt -> you dying

Agreed, dreamland and fountain(maybe, correct if I am wrong) are your stages

 

[Captain JOHN]

Agreed, dreamland and fountain(maybe, correct if I am wrong) are your stages

I actually like fountain as a cp for this matchup. It's really hard to explain, so I won't do so now. But thanks for the help guys

 

[dinn3rr]

As a SoCal netplayer and person who goes against a LOT of sheiks (Kira, sherigami, SacaSuMoto, etc.) You need to mixup your superior movement against sheik. Sheik's movement is pretty trashy compared to falcon. Don't get grabbed, ever. CP to Dreamland or FoD, and keep Sheik in the air. Sheik horrible when she's being juggled, and uair is great for that. It's a bad MU, but its a possible one.

For edguarding her, it's relatively easy. Knock her off and grab ledge, and just react to where she goes. Depending on where she is, one sheik poofs from her up-b you should either A)Roll off ledge to cover ledge option and react if she goes onto stage or B) Ledge hop once she poofs, this is hoping on the fact she doesn't go to ledge. Her Up-B has a LOT of landing lag, and can easily be punished with knee/dair. Also once she's on the ledge, don't challenge her if they know how to shino/refresh invincible frames. Let them come to you.

 

[Captain JOHN]

Thanks @ dinn3rr ! i really appreciate it! So bait her up-b to the stage and ledge aerial her when she lands back on. Juggle with up-air and dont get grabbed. easy enough

 

[SwiftOfDaSouth]

read this post it will tell you all about good throws and we all know how falcon loves his throws
http://smashboards.com/threads/up-throw-di-behind-on-sheik.413499/

and also don't get grabbed or your completely screwed dont go to FD EVER. Use platforms don't be afraid to make him approach you sometimes a lot of shieks rely on reacting and grab/tilt -> you dying

I gave the same advice in a thread of a similar topic a while ago, and a player wisely commented that as a Falcon main, you shouldn't be afraid of FD. Falcons are always so terrified of sheik that they tend to forget the one thing above all else that Falcon has above sheik: his ability to combo her to death. Taking away FD just because you're not good enough to tech in place -> spotdodge or what have you is foolish, and you as a Falcon main have to approach this matchup with no fear. Instead, make the sheik fear you, something they're not used to doing. Rattle them with the ultimate sheik slayer known by some as "Up air" and air wobble her into a rest, aka your knee of MOTHER ****ING JUSTICE.

Also, FoD can really mess up their techchases with the platforms and stuff so it's really not a horrible option. Hope this helped!

 

[Captain JOHN]

I gave the same advice in a thread of a similar topic a while ago, and a player wisely commented that as a Falcon main, you shouldn't be afraid of FD. Falcons are always so terrified of sheik that they tend to forget the one thing above all else that Falcon has above sheik: his ability to combo her to death. Taking away FD just because you're not good enough to tech in place -> spotdodge or what have you is foolish, and you as a Falcon main have to approach this matchup with no fear. Instead, make the sheik fear you, something they're not used to doing. Rattle them with the ultimate sheik slayer known by some as "Up air" and air wobble her into a rest, aka your knee of MOTHER ****ING JUSTICE.

Also, FoD can really mess up their techchases with the platforms and stuff so it's really not a horrible option. Hope this helped!

thanks man thats some good stuff