Help with Diddy

[Ballistaboy]

I was facing someone using Diddy with my Lucas and he absolutely destroyed me.

His ftilt and (bair?) have great range and amazing knockback which kills me. Tagged along with the bananas and the damage i don't get to attack him alot.

When I try to keep my distance and make him approach me he uses the peanut gun and throws a banana when i try to dodge/roll and if i dont i get hit.

I will keep trying to beat him just need a couple of hints to work off of.

 

[MTFFFG]

thats what makes diddy top tier

 

[Jihnsius]

Try forward smashing the bananas back at him. I'm pretty sure PK Fire will cancel his peanuts, too. Just keep a medium distance and spam projectiles, his bananas aren't hard to avoid if he's not close.

 

[Kaltori]

I'm a bit of a "noob" but I think I have a few ideas. They seem really simple, and I'll probably get laughed at, but gotta start somewhere.

I'd say "wavebounce" (I believe that's it, the pk fire that pushes you way back) in response to his peanut gun. You should be able to chain them faster than his peanut gun, which removes that from the equation. Just camp him out and make him come to you I'd say.

Also, depending on the skill level of the player (I know, you're probably playing pro's or at least competitive players) a PKT out towards the enemy, and then quickly whipping it around to PKT2 yourself at them can work wonders and throw them off.

Your best bet is to keep Diddy away, and just mindgame / outplay / outcamp him. You might even try setting up to him backwards and try to goad him into a sh ba, but once again this may be too simple of a tactic to work on a skilled player.

I don't know if I managed to help, but I thought I'd at least try.

 

[CFaLC]

Believe it or not...You can grab Diddy's peanuts and bananas and use them against him. I've faced a few people who use Diddy...and I like to throw bananas at him and see how he likes it. He slips on the bananas and he'll take a ton of damage from Lucas' smash attacks.

 

[Ballistaboy]

I'm a bit of a "noob" but I think I have a few ideas. They seem really simple, and I'll probably get laughed at, but gotta start somewhere.

I'd say "wavebounce" (I believe that's it, the pk fire that pushes you way back) in response to his peanut gun. You should be able to chain them faster than his peanut gun, which removes that from the equation. Just camp him out and make him come to you I'd say.

Also, depending on the skill level of the player (I know, you're probably playing pro's or at least competitive players) a PKT out towards the enemy, and then quickly whipping it around to PKT2 yourself at them can work wonders and throw them off.

Your best bet is to keep Diddy away, and just mindgame / outplay / outcamp him. You might even try setting up to him backwards and try to goad him into a sh ba, but once again this may be too simple of a tactic to work on a skilled player.

I don't know if I managed to help, but I thought I'd at least try.

I usually use all those ideas, when he uses his peanut gun he fires shots off quickly while jumping to get some forward momentum towards me to get up close.

I'll try to dodge or roll and grab when he gets close enough mixing it up all the time

Believe it or not...You can grab Diddy's peanuts and bananas and use them against him. I've faced a few people who use Diddy...and I like to throw bananas at him and see how he likes it. He slips on the bananas and he'll take a ton of damage from Lucas' smash attacks.

I'll try and catch the bananas, i'm going to try an mix it up more often and I hope i can beat him. Still accepting advice.

 

[Kaltori]

I usually use all those ideas, when he uses his peanut gun he fires shots off quickly while jumping to get some forward momentum towards me to get up close.

I'll try to dodge or roll and grab when he gets close enough mixing it up all the time




I'll try and catch the bananas, i'm going to try an mix it up more often and I hope i can beat him. Still accepting advice.

Rock on, just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. My Lucas is decent but I have too much altitis at this point to really dig into him and get great. Didn't even think about the hopping peanuts.

Maybe try to sneak a pk freeze in? If you're across the map you can sneak one in between peanuts and if you dont' use it very often it can be a real surprise. I've actually had people accidentally jump off the map because the forgot I could do it and ran away haha.

Although I don't play against "the best" players...

 

[Trozz]

You can use your up-taunt to do the trip animation. This could trick your opponent in to thinking that you actually tripped.

 

[TechnoMonster]

Alright first off all, Trozz, that's a terrible idea.

Second of all, Diddy has about a 7-3 advantage on Lucas; he's going to be pressing you. Learn to roll or n-air out of shield from his dash attack, and from there you just need to work on either beating him to it or getting out of whatever he's doing.

 

[Trozz]

I wasn't serious.
One thing Diddy really lacks is attack priority. N-air sounds like a good idea for dealing damage early.