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help me play vs peach

Wilhelmsan

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Fewer fullhopped nairs, more shorthopped drillshines.

If you apply tech skill appropriately, then Peach is a breeze

PS: you should check Silent Wolf's matchup thread. It's stickied at the top of the Fox section.
 

Fefnir Cerveau

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My way of fighting a Peach, is slightly cheap, but whatever works when you need to win, you know. Well, go Masashi style. Well spaced bairs to shine, and laser spam. Throw in a few drillshine combos, but not too much, since Peach can easily CC it to dsmash. Remember to tech the whorenado, even if you don't think she'll do anything. Make it a habit to press L or whatever whenever you recover.
 

technomancer

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Dude your fox is mad gay lol. Basically learn to combo into an upsmash out of your nairs and shines at the right percents (mid percents for nairs and then you can spam upair and lasers, and then shine->usmash when it'll kill)
 

SCOTU

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ok, first: the peach is not one of the smarter peaches i've seen and from what i gather, they only win by outhinking you. Also, that peach knows little of edgegaurding and recovery.
put that aside
i play this matchup A LOT, seriously, less nair. Waveshine the crap out of that ***** (i like to drillshine left and right)
Laser a lot more.
at %s less than 70, uthrow to uairs- SERIOUSLY
(at under 40% you'd better do them perfectly or they nair you though)
you can probably chain several uairs together.
The Bair outpriorities her dash, so shffled bair>wavedash>repeat can work (opponent dependant)

for waveshine combos on peach, see my vid: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5034768952955448555&q=5th+column+ascension
 

halfDemon

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I must compliment your use of lasers, it was quite good and entertaining for me to watch. However, seeing as how you can SHDL, you definitely should've been able to get three lasers out when you did fulljumps, not just two. Also, I would recommend you mix up your recovery from the ledge; you edgehopped double-lasered EVERY time. Mix it up! I'm surprised you weren't punished more for that. And you definitely need more drillshine and UThrow > UAir. Good Fox, though.
 

romeo619

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yeah guys, i noticed i got like, zero grabs and almost no dair-waveshines in these matches. we recorded a couple days ago and i did a lot better/
 

Press22

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best advice I can give is go crazy and not use the same moves especially on a peach you spam the nair too much.
 

FastFox

Faster than most vehicles
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Contrary to what people are saying, try to avoid shffling altogether, unless you can combo into a u-smash. I just lost to Hitsugaya's Peach. It's by far one of the best Peaches I've ever seen.

Full jumps are great, but make sure you get your L-cancels and pop those shines out asap. If not, you get *****'d. Lasering is really important. Tons of peaches float-camp, so just camp them back and laser them until they come to you.

Don't recover so that you land directly above them, or in front of them. Always go for the behind approach. Same thing goes for when you're attacking. Try to land behind the shield just in case she wants to grab you and slap you accross the face.

Not much else I can say.. Maybe I'll come back if I can think of anything else.
 

SCOTU

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On this topic, what are fox's best options against a floating peach that is *near* you, when lasing because it's too close is dangerous?
 

FastFox

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Just wait until her floating stops. Peach's bair kills, and her nair hits from behind as well as in front. Just wait it out then attack, unless you're feeling risky and go for an upsmash.
 

RedYoshi92

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peach is like a tank hit and run as soon as you hit that ***** with a nair,spam lots of lasers to make the peach angry,waveshine as much as you can.
 
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