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Help for a Noob

OliClutch117

Smash Apprentice
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Feb 10, 2013
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My Friends and I are new too competitive melee and want to know a good way to get better. I was curious what you guys practiced as Peach and what tactics you have found most useful. Also if you could help with the Puff and Marth match up it would be appreciated.
 

AozoraX

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Mar 26, 2012
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Rule #1 - no johns

My things vs Marth are pretty textbook like in Vanz's thread. Everything Marth does can hit you out of your groove and you can't CC a FSmash to the face. Turnips and look for openings.

Puff is a nightmare if all the person does is abuse Bairs. One then they can't fight is Fair and Bairs. Puffs also like to retreat after aerials 80% of the time, so you could just run in and sheild and have them eat a Nair. The Puff matchup is literally waiting for intervals.

At least I think so anyway.
 

MaPow

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Jan 22, 2013
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Altamonte Springs Florida
I just picked up peach this weekend, and I tested it out today on our good friend Sweet T who mains marth. We played a ton of friendlies and in our set of 5, I really studied the matchup, and I actually took him to game five and barely lost.

Psychology/Baiting
Some people (like Sweet T) like to do nothing/wait/make you approach (as you know Lust). Sometimes I see your peach just approach with a Fair or Bair. Which works on occasion but not so much against marth. I would just pull a turnip whenever I got a chance and would punish his reactions to them. Since we are even technically, it's more a psychological battle, and when I hit down smash after down smash he begins to moan. Should I stop down smashing since its a very good move? **** NO! Continue to use it when it's needed, and hell just kill him with it. The more pissed the more likely he will do stupid things(same goes when he is landing tippers, you are always in the game, keep positive no matter what). When his marth would approach I would shield when he was in range for a tipper, and if he came at me in the air I would keep my shield and punish with dsmash or Nair OoS. If he approached me on the ground then i would spot dodge the grab or stupid dash attack that occasionally happens, and then I would down smash after the spot dodge. The main thing I do against Marth with my puff is bait -> punish. So I just tried to do somewhat the same with Peach, and it worked just as well as puff if not better (becuz turnips are da best).

Edge Guarding
since I'm not very good at Peach yet I decided to stay safe with edgeguarding, and I would just hurl a hoard of turnips at marth when he was off the edge, and it sometimes got the kill (landing a stitch off-stage is a KO so good for peachy).
When someone tries to ledge camp, and they aren't perfect at it I could sometimes pull of a dsmash or dash attack to knock them off/gimp them.
And the classic dsmash when he tries to sweet spot the ledge works wonders and peeves your opponent.

Things I notice from your gameplay after playing seriously with peach

My initial thought was why you use up smash a lot. It's a great KO move on the sweet-spot and a good combo starter on the weak hitbox, but I constantly see you or myself get punished for using it, or should I say abusing it. Most players will notice you fishing for it at the end of a stock so just play it safe and don't fish for it to where it gets punished.

MORE TURNIPS. Especially against an opponent like Marth. Something I noticed was at higher percentage my dash attack would send marth higher and when I tried to follow up with a Nair or Up air I would just get sliced in some way by his long sword. So rather than following up dash attack, I found time to pluck a turnip and get under him and throw it straight up or fall back and throw one at a distance to get another opening.

You use Nair more now which is good, you used to rarely do it. JUST KEEP NAIRING. Insta-float Niar-ing works great, and the priority feels great.

Overall, I'm beginning to really like peach quicker than I thought. I may be new to the peach metagame, but I hope my input helped you Lust. And I look forward to learning more things about peachy rom you and on the peach boards :grin:!
 

OliClutch117

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Thanks, but I've been running sheik for a couple days now and I think she is the perfect Marth counter but if Sheik doesn't pull through I will be sure to try some of this.
 

MaPow

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I mean sheik is a great char against marth and overall. So solid secondary for peach IMO. Sweet T will give you disrespect, but screw him, win at all costs. (USE RED SHEIK cuz I like that)
 

kalamazhu

Smash Journeyman
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Mar 26, 2008
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practice your techskill. Be able to float at any height and do Float Cancelled aerials easily. movement is key in this game.

practice your combos on lvl 1 computers. they typically start with a dash attack or grab or something of that sort.
practice Chain grabs on FD on lvl 1 fast fallers. knowing how to chain grabs can get u some pretty cheap wins if you are a lower level player.
 
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