Aznseal
Smash Apprentice
Any help against a missile spamming samus with Falco?
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Help against samus?
- Thread starter Aznseal
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Cinder
Smash Master
I have the same problem...I think it would help to play on a stage with platforms, and JC shine to get to high ground, and mindgame from there...idk, like I said, I have the same problem...
Cbone
Smash Journeyman
power shield every missile...lol jk um more spam more lasers than usual? i find that when im having trouble against a samus i just laser alot and it makes the approach easier.
Dew Rag
Smash Ace
short hop laser shine
gkrackerr
Smash Ace
I used to also have a lot of trouble with samus, hopefully i can help shed some light on this.
For missile spamming Samus: I would suggest one of two things.
- To approach her, your nair can eat through her missiles and also provide a mini wall against an attack if she follows up with the missile to attach you.
- The second option would be to rshl->shield. This way you shorten the distance between you and samus, prevent her from spamming missiles as much, and possible lead on your own attack.
There is always the third option of jumping over the missles, however a good samus will intercept you with a nair or she can wait and sheild w/e move you come down with and then upb out of shield.
Also, I wouldn't suggest reflecting her missiles as much. The reason being that she can follow up the missile, jump over it after you reflected it, and then hit you with a dair while you are in the lag from the shine.
As for playing her in general, I recieved some great advice awhile ago from phanna. He suggested that whenver you are not punishing samus for a laggy move with a dair->utilt/shine or something else, that you should laser her. Really, in this matchup, it comes down to your lasers. He also suggested that dtilt after a jab is good for a kill, yet you shouldn't use it as much when fighting or they will catch on and punish you.
Hope I was able to help out.
For missile spamming Samus: I would suggest one of two things.
- To approach her, your nair can eat through her missiles and also provide a mini wall against an attack if she follows up with the missile to attach you.
- The second option would be to rshl->shield. This way you shorten the distance between you and samus, prevent her from spamming missiles as much, and possible lead on your own attack.
There is always the third option of jumping over the missles, however a good samus will intercept you with a nair or she can wait and sheild w/e move you come down with and then upb out of shield.
Also, I wouldn't suggest reflecting her missiles as much. The reason being that she can follow up the missile, jump over it after you reflected it, and then hit you with a dair while you are in the lag from the shine.
As for playing her in general, I recieved some great advice awhile ago from phanna. He suggested that whenver you are not punishing samus for a laggy move with a dair->utilt/shine or something else, that you should laser her. Really, in this matchup, it comes down to your lasers. He also suggested that dtilt after a jab is good for a kill, yet you shouldn't use it as much when fighting or they will catch on and punish you.
Hope I was able to help out.
Adi
Smash Lord
Laser her like a ******.
mikechi
Smash Apprentice
spam lasers like a mother ****er
TheKneeOfJustice
Smash Lord
Lasers, as everyone else has said. Watch out for her crouch cancels too. To counter those, shine, and make sure you can JC Shine when you need too. Also, approach with more Nairs than usual, and if need be, Bair spam a bit to get here off the stage. From there laser her to try and mess with her recovery, and just try to time and edge hog.