help against pokemon trainer

[Vicious699]

This is a vid of me getting worked by chillin's pokemon trainer. any ideas on how to avoid charizards double fair? also any other tips in general would help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvZl7VAaxlw

edit: heres another video of Chillins charizard doing the double fair to Azens ike, http://youtube.com/watch?v=EXsY1OWcShQ

 

[WhiteOblv]

Your ike needs some work my friend. You should use ikes jab alot more often to keep space, you ran away alot. Use quik draw for mobility (forawrdb) then if your close enough or you spaced your self correctly use utilt or upb for more damage. Dont try and use fsmash when your THAT close to some 1. I actually advise not using it on squritle period.

Im half awake right now so thats all im going to give

 

[Fanboysareevil]

k.

Er...the dude is just better than you, you don't suck or anything, but the skill gap IS blatant. Anyway, try Nair against that double Fair, it might work.

 

[Vicious699]

if i nair then the move lasts to long so i wont make it back to the edge. also this was the 2nd time i played brawl, so i've gotten a lot better since then cause i'm constantly playin chillin

 

[fire_wulf]

Here is some advice... Don't play against Chillin. 2nd time playing brawl and you go against Chillin.. one of the best PT's out there right now.
3 words: Lv9 controlled computer. That might help you out as a start.

 

[Vicious699]

Here is some advice... Don't play against Chillin. 2nd time playing brawl and you go against Chillin.. one of the best PT's out there right now.
3 words: Lv9 controlled computer. That might help you out as a start.

Dude playin Chillin has made me so much better so much faster. really i'm only looking for help as to how to escape the double fair he did to kill me at the end of the match. i've seen a vid of Chillin vs Azens ike where his charizard does the exact same double fair to
azen, so i'm just tryin to figure out ways to get around it.

 

[fire_wulf]

From what i have seen of it... you don't get out of it.

So just don't get caught sleeping. Best i can do... maybe i can help after i get the game... but that move looks like i will be using it when i play PT for that exact reason

 

[Fanboysareevil]

Umm...ya...I just realized the stupidity of that post, of course there is too much lag. Oh well, how about trying to Aether right before the 1st Fair and using the super armor to negate the knockback?

 

[Vicious699]

Umm...ya...I just realized the stupidity of that post, of course there is too much lag. Oh well, how about trying to Aether right before the 1st Fair and using the super armor to negate the knockback?

Thats a good idea to avoid getting hit by chars fair, but i guess the real question im askin is what do i do after i get hit by the 1st fair to avoid getting hit by the second one

 

[fire_wulf]

Once again.. haven't tried anything cuz i can't... but maybe air-dodge ... This is a hard questions

 

[Xihyon]

It looks like they are predicting that you will panic and make it back to the edge as fast as you can. Try and DI out of it off the edge luring them out further. But then again, this game is becoming more of a mind game then I would like to expect.

 

[fire_wulf]

It looks like they are predicting that you will panic and make it back to the edge as fast as you can. Try and DI out of it off the edge luring them out further. But then again, this game is becoming more of a mind game then I would like to expect.

One of the things that separated the pros from the casuals was the pros ability to use mind games... I am so glad this game requires mind games