Has anyone else noticed that 1rst player has priority over 2nd, 2nd over 3rd, ect.

[seX_panTHeR]

I tested this out using the same character at peaches castle (so you start right next to each other and facing). Then I hold R for both characters and when the game starts, 1rst player always gets the throw, no matter which character I use. Might this lead to other advantages that first player may have? Sorry if this is well known, Im kind of a newbie

 

[The Star King]

It's known. Also if you lose your last stock on the same frame as someone else, the victory screen results will be P4>P3>P2>P1.

 

[RickySSB]

I didnt even notice that, you are Jesus!!

 

[asianaussie]

Ricky hath spoken, the man must be Jesus.

 

[seX_panTHeR]

So if it is known, has it been judged to be a distinct advantage? Is it non-negligible in competitive matches?

 

[The Star King]

It's not THAT big of an advantage because it applies to when people grab each other at the exact same frame, which obviously isn't that common. But I guess it could matter on Peach's Castle because of the dum starting positions.

 

[King Omega]

Same in every Smash game, and there are veeeeery few cases where it matters in 64. Like Star King said, simultaneous grabs is one of them, but almost nothing else is. Simultaneous ground attacks (and projectiles) always clank, and aerial attacks always trade.

If P1 Falcon's uair hits a P4 Kirby as the Kirby hits the Falcon with a dair, they both get hit. It's all about hitboxes, not priority.

Controller slot priority plays more into, oh, one player is holding another and then they both get hit by an attack, who goes flying and in which direction etc. etc. Actually, that might just be Melee and Brawl; it wouldn't surprise me if 64 was simplified.

 

[Sempiternity]

m2k won't play unless he's first port or something

and i do recall people complaining about port priority in barwl games (especially teams)

 

[The Star King]

Apparently in Brawl it affects chaingrabs and **** so it actually matters in some match-ups

Dat game

 

[Sempiternity]

is it just me or is dat game all about exploiting bad game mechanics

Spoiler

because you can't do anything else

 

[Krynxe]

For the most part, yes. But a huge part about that game is also going for and getting reads. I think.

 

[Sempiternity]

sounds like a really stressful game

 

[Krynxe]

Yeah I would agree entirely. Especially since you have to camp for like 5 minutes to end up getting killed in some jank way haha. (aka grabbed by ice grab climbers.)

 

[The Star King]

"going for and getting reads" is a huge part of any (good) fighting game

 

[Sempiternity]

true, but that's all you do in that game

for every single hit

 

[Krynxe]

Yeah, Sempiternity gets it

It's a huge part of a good fighting game - it's the only part of brawl

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

gotta read those trips bro

 

[Krynxe]

I can't wait for the new metagame of smash 4...

when they finally implement aerial tripping

 

[Morin0]

I find Brawl videos more nerve wracking than Melee or 64.

 

[King Omega]

m2k won't play unless he's first port or something

Fourth port. It sounds backwards, but there are reasons.

I find Brawl videos more nerve wracking than Melee or 64.

It adds to the fun!

 

[Sempiternity]

Fourth port. It sounds backwards, but there are reasons.

i was thinking melee

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

I find Brawl videos more nerve wracking than Melee or 64.

Watching Hbox play in melee is kinda more to me...but oh well.