Hacking in Smash 4.

[Prince Longstrok]

Heya!

Im curious, is anyone else hoping at some point, texture hacking will be available on the Wiiu?

I know it may sound greedy, but... there is just something incredibly fun about having harmless texture hacks in Brawl, Not only do you get to play an incredibly fun and entertaining brawler, but you can do it as pretty much any of your favorite characters

Im going to assume it wont be possible, as im sure they will go out of their way to ensure the game is designed to make it impossible :\

 

[Curmudgeon]

Too soon...

It would be cool though, I love hacking Brawl

 

[Quinfordmac]

I have always wanted to hack brawl, too lazy to though.

 

[Ulevo]

I'll be honest here. Although hacking is a fun, neat, creative pass time, and there's nothing wrong with doing it, the entire reason why Brawl was so heavily hacked was because of a communities desire to either fix the numerable problems Nintendo and co. failed to address and prevent, as well as to fill the void of desires left by fans that weren't addressed. The Wii as a whole is quite accessible to any group of fans that want to hack games, but Brawl was above and beyond the most picked apart, and its because of the very reasons I noted.

If we don't see a surge of numerous Brawl hacks for Smash Wii U (assuming it is possible), I would almost count this as a blessing. It means we as collective whole don't feel we need to do what Sakurai failed to do during development, and that it is in fact a good, well polished game we can just enjoy out of the box.

 

[Curmudgeon]

I'll be honest here. Although hacking is a fun, neat, creative pass time, and there's nothing wrong with doing it, the entire reason why Brawl was so heavily hacked was because of a communities desire to either fix the numerable problems Nintendo and co. failed to address and prevent, as well as to fill the void of desires left by fans that weren't addressed. The Wii as a whole is quite accessible to any group of fans that want to hack games, but Brawl was above and beyond the most picked apart, and its because of the very reasons I noted.

If we don't see a surge of numerous Brawl hacks for Smash Wii U (assuming it is possible), I would almost count this as a blessing. It means we as collective whole don't feel we need to do what Sakurai failed to do during development, and that it is in fact a good, well polished game we can just enjoy out of the box.

I really liked Brawl, but I doubt we'll ever see a Hulk Hogan skin on Snake in SSB4...

 

[Prince Longstrok]

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I'll be honest here. Although hacking is a fun, neat, creative pass time, and there's nothing wrong with doing it, the entire reason why Brawl was so heavily hacked was because of a communities desire to either fix the numerable problems Nintendo and co. failed to address and prevent, as well as to fill the void of desires left by fans that weren't addressed. The Wii as a whole is quite accessible to any group of fans that want to hack games, but Brawl was above and beyond the most picked apart, and its because of the very reasons I noted.

If we don't see a surge of numerous Brawl hacks for Smash Wii U (assuming it is possible), I would almost count this as a blessing. It means we as collective whole don't feel we need to do what Sakurai failed to do during development, and that it is in fact a good, well polished game we can just enjoy out of the box.

I completely agree with that statement, but the main thing I am interested in are texture hacks

Project M is cool and nice, but being able to play with a Kratos skin is something would never expect out of Sakurai (obviously!), but with Brawl hacking I can do it :D

 

[Renji64]

Thanks to hacking brawl was so much enjoyable with custom music textures to keep it looking fresh and the gameplay mods such as Brawl+ and Project M. But hopefully that happens towards the end of the wiiU's lifespan.

 

[Seraphim.]

I loved hacking, Having Roy textures and his voice over Marth was pretty cool. And it helped keep playing Brawl fresh.

 

[FalKoopa]

Hacking helps me to fulfil my fanboy wishes. (Adding a ton ofcharacters, bringing back the cut characters etc.) and getting rid of annoying stages like New Pork City. Embarrass

 

[Prince Longstrok]

Right :D Hacking helps the fans keep the game fresh for us.

We dont like having that "not soo fresh feeling" ;D

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I think it's too early for such a question.

 

[Orngeblu]

You eventually get bored of the textures and most of the music in Brawl just...doesn't sound good enough. You want an EPIC song to play when you're battling another player. It feels really good when you play with said music playing. I don't really care too much for character textures, actually. I care mostly for stage textures. You get bored of the default textures eventually, and want something new. You can change your battlefield texture from...that, to this: (Warning: Very purple-heavy stage, lul)

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Who wouldn't want this!? It looks awesome!

But then again, Sakurai might complain saying "we worked hard on this stage and you're playing on something different" or something like that. I can understand why he'd feel that way, though. If they do find a way to hack it, do you think it might become patched?

I most likely won't be hacking my Wii U though. I'd rather be safe than sorry. I don't want a brick because I won't be getting another Wii U any time soon.

 

[BADGRAPHICS]

Im going to assume it wont be possible, as im sure they will go out of their way to ensure the game is designed to make it impossible :\

There's no such thing as an unhackable game, so I wouldn't worry about that. Games are like anything else; if you can build it, you can tear it down, replace parts or etch your name into the windows. The community already exists; Smash 4 will be hacked to pieces.

 

[Tybis]

There's no such thing as an unhackable game, so I wouldn't worry about that. Games are like anything else; if you can build it, you can tear it down, replace parts or etch your name into the windows. The community already exists; Smash 4 will be hacked to pieces.

It will... but unless lightning stikes twice, we won't have such an easy way to use mods on unmodded systems.

 

[mimgrim]

There's no such thing as an unhackable game, so I wouldn't worry about that. Games are like anything else; if you can build it, you can tear it down, replace parts or etch your name into the windows. The community already exists; Smash 4 will be hacked to pieces.

This is only true if the system is question has been hacked or not, and in this case the Wii-U has, meaning all of it's games will be hackable. However take a look at the 3DS, the system has been out for a good while now and as far as I know has yet to be hacked, correct me if I'm wrong here but as far as I know it hasn't been. So as long as the system remains unhackable so do the games, it will be funny if the 3DS will keep on staying unhackable.

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

This is only true if the system is question has been hacked or not, and in this case the Wii-U has, meaning all of it's games will be hackable. However take a look at the 3DS, the system has been out for a good while now and as far as I know has yet to be hacked, correct me if I'm wrong here but as far as I know it hasn't been. So as long as the system remains unhackable so do the games, it will be funny if the 3DS will keep on staying unhackable.

The Wii U isn't hacked, the Wii mode on the Wii U is hacked. And every single game on the Wii U is miles away from hackable, and even if they were hackable I don't know if I'd expect the Brawl level of hacking until a long ways into its lifespan, considering how little has been done in Melee and 64 hacking.

 

[mimgrim]

The Wii U isn't hacked, the Wii mode on the Wii U is hacked. And every single game on the Wii U is miles away from hackable, and even if they were hackable I don't know if I'd expect the Brawl level of hacking until a long ways into its lifespan, considering how little has been done in Melee and 64 hacking.

Ah I got it mixed up on the Wii-U, my mistake. ^^

 

[Jaedrik]

This is only true if the system is question has been hacked or not, and in this case the Wii-U has, meaning all of it's games will be hackable. However take a look at the 3DS, the system has been out for a good while now and as far as I know has yet to be hacked, correct me if I'm wrong here but as far as I know it hasn't been. So as long as the system remains unhackable so do the games, it will be funny if the 3DS will keep on staying unhackable.

R4 cards? Japan just made them illegal and ban imports, also they (whatever owns/creates R4 cards) were ordered to pay Nintendo damages.
Hmm, well I guess that's not exactly hacking the system.
Hacking should not be illegal unless the device is protected under contract law. I can respect contract law, because that's the mutual agreement I enter by using a service, HOWEVER, property rights usurp this, if I own completely and wholly 100% my device, I should be able to do with it whatever I please, that means reverse engineer it, make derivatives, sell it, modify it, etc. A lot of times (people don't realize) that user end license agreement thingy means you don't actually own your console wholly.
Ah, but I don't know about that, they want you to enter a contract after you already bought the device? Huh. You can reject I suppose, then you're free to hack to your heart's content. The unsanctioned access to the service while circumventing a contract is, well I don't know about that either.
Our system isn't the most ideal system after all, haha. Many companies unfortunately think they owe their success to IP and protecting it at all costs, I believe this is a flawed marketing strategy, a lot of people will buy your device if you make it as accessible as possible. Look at Psy for example, he didn't enforce his copyright protection when stores and shirts popped up everywhere with the names 'Gangnam Style', and it was a raving success, look at medicine, where there are on and off brand pharmaceuticals sitting right next to each other living in perfect harmony.

Surely there are MANY NUMEROUS people who bought the Wii/Brawl for the express ability of its hackability.

Oh well, maybe some day?
Hacking something you own is a just and noble thing, hacking something you do not own is criminal, but damages must be shown to convict, furthermore, no one can truly own an idea. It is unfortunate that our system thinks this. Physical property is a different story altogether, software falls under that category.
I don't even remember where I was going, oh right, hacking SSB4/Wii U/3DS. If you own it and you're not obligated under contract law to not hack it, then you should be able to. I don't know if you could though

 

[mimgrim]

R4 cards? Japan just made them illegal and ban imports, also they (whatever owns/creates R4 cards) were ordered to pay Nintendo damages.
Hmm, well I guess that's not exactly hacking the system.
Hacking should not be illegal unless the device is protected under contract law. I can respect contract law, because that's the mutual agreement I enter by using a service, HOWEVER, property rights usurp this, if I own completely and wholly 100% my device, I should be able to do with it whatever I please, that means reverse engineer it, make derivatives, sell it, modify it, etc. A lot of times (people don't realize) that user end license agreement thingy means you don't actually own your console wholly.
Ah, but I don't know about that, they want you to enter a contract after you already bought the device? Huh. You can reject I suppose, then you're free to hack to your heart's content. The unsanctioned access to the service while circumventing a contract is, well I don't know about that either.
Our system isn't the most ideal system after all, haha. Many companies unfortunately think they owe their success to IP and protecting it at all costs, I believe this is a flawed marketing strategy, a lot of people will buy your device if you make it as accessible as possible. Look at Psy for example, he didn't enforce his copyright protection when stores and shirts popped up everywhere with the names 'Gangnam Style', and it was a raving success, look at medicine, where there are on and off brand pharmaceuticals sitting right next to each other living in perfect harmony.

Surely there are MANY NUMEROUS people who bought the Wii/Brawl for the express ability of its hackability.

Oh well, maybe some day?
Hacking something you own is a just and noble thing, hacking something you do not own is criminal, but damages must be shown to convict, furthermore, no one can truly own an idea. It is unfortunate that our system thinks this. Physical property is a different story altogether, software falls under that category.
I don't even remember where I was going, oh right, hacking SSB4/Wii U/3DS. If you own it and you're not obligated under contract law to not hack it, then you should be able to. I don't know if you could though

Where the frick did that come from? I just meant the 3DS hasn't been hacked yet and is thus currently unhackable. And R4 cards do not count. lol

 

[Jaedrik]

Where the frick did that come from? I just meant the 3DS hasn't been hacked yet and is thus currently unhackable. And R4 cards do not count. lol

I was springboarding off your post, jeeze, the whole thing wasn't centered around the quote
I felt like I could contribute more to the discussion. Okay, R4 cards don't count.

 

[Dr. James Rustles]

Like the archetypal bro, I rarely get mad about things, especially on the internet. But a few years ago I was playing TF2 and I brought up Brawl+ over the mic. Someone didn't know what it was (they had little knowledge of Smash Bros. in general), so I told them that it was a modded version of Brawl, and so forth. They then asked, "Wow, what kind of moron would want to change a game? How bad could the game be?"

By the end of the conversation, they made it clear they thought the only kind of game that could be needed to change was one that sucked, and by extension the modified game must suck. They didn't believe changing a game could make it better, and in fact they genuinely believed the act of changing a game made it worse. I had never heard a more idiotic suggestion in my life. Here they were playing the most heavily modified game in existence, with more patches, updates, hacks, and community added content than the games in several other franchises put together.

The shockwaves from my rustling jimmies caused several migratory birds to go extinct, disrupted satellite communications in the tri-state aerospace, and lead several whale communities to be beached.