Guys when do you think we'll have the announcement trailer?

[Vintage Creep]

I think maybe next E3... But I hope sooner.

Also, when do you think the game will come out? Usually the development of a Smash Bros. game is around two years (late 2005 to january 2008 for Brawl), but something always ends up being kinda rushed or added last-minute, so I wouldn't mind a longer development for this one, to do everything right. I expect march 2014, but I wouldn't mind to wait till Christmas season of the same year...

What do you think?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

E3 2013 is the best bet IMO. It could be sooner, but I doubt it. The one thing that might change that is Nintendos' habit of doing Nintendo Directs when it wants to anounce something. They might do one of those when they have something to show.

 

[Frostwraith]

E3 2013 at earliest... if not, then we might get lucky to get news through an eventual Nintendo Direct.

I think Xmas season 2013 or E3 2014 are safer bets.

 

[Claire Diviner]

It's too soon to really say, though E3 2013 is the best bet. Some predict that by Christmas 2013, Smash 4 will be released, though I seriously doubt they'll finish that soon.

 

[Vintage Creep]

It's too soon to really say, though E3 2013 is the best bet. Some predict that by Christmas 2013, Smash 4 will be released, though I seriously doubt they'll finish that soon.

Nah, too soon. I would be happy as ****, but I fear a lot of things would be made just too fast. But who knows, I heard the "code" of the game was already finished... I'm not sure what that means lol, still...

 

[MrGamer419]

E3 2014 i bet

 

[N3ON]

I think, like others have already said, E3 2013 is a pretty safe guess. It's possible we might see a name or something beforehand, but that's fairly unlikely. By E3 2013, the game will already have been in development for over a year, which is longer than from when Brawl started to when we got a trailer, so I think it's fairly reasonable to expect some sort of announcement with content. I am wondering how much gameplay will be shown and how much will just be CGI though, but honestly that doesn't matter too much to me.

As for when it will actually come out? I'd say anything before 2014 is unrealistic, and nobody should be getting their hopes up to play it next year, but who knows.

 

[Big-Cat]

"For you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night." - 1 Thessalonians 5:2

 

[Johnknight1]

I've been saying November 2012 is when we will get the first bit of "big news" since like the beginning of forever.

As for a trailer, maybe we'll get a small tidbit in November 2012 (at a WiiU promo event), but most likely, we won't get a trailer until (the time period) March 2013 to E3 2013 (which I believe is in late June/early July).

Also, I think at the earliest, Smash WiiU and 3DS will come out in Q3 2015 (and at the latest, Q2 2016). These 2 games will take 3-4 years to make (together), especially with all these new willy nilly awesome and superb super 1080p graphics (seriously guys, Brawl basically was on the same system as Melee).

Edit: Anyone who thinks Smash WiiU or 3DS will come out in 2013 is an idiot. I will bet any man or woman dumb enough to take that bet that it will come out after 2013... for any amount of money. 2014 as it is stretches things, but 2013 is just stupid. Seriously, you want 2 games that got 10-22 months to make at the same time=???

 

[FlareHabanero]

2014 is probably going to be the most reasonable time for the games to be released. Roughly 2 years is enough to complete both games in time, but there is always the possibilities of delays pushing back the date to 2015.

As for when the first trailer will come out, it will be E3 next year. A year of development is enough to show off quite a handful of content, and E3 is the perfect place to reveal big name titles like Super Smash Bros. Though of course there is whatever Retro Studios and Monolithsoft are working on too, plus some possible details on future titles like The Legend of Zelda and Mario Kart. Also the obligatory surprise announcement that wasn't hinted at.

 

[Spydr Enzo]

E3 2013 at earliest... if not, then we might get lucky to get news through an eventual Nintendo Direct.

E3 2013 at the earliest? I'd say E3 2013 at the latest. I'm almost positive that by the time E3 2013 rolls around, the game will be in good enough shape to be shown-off. There's a chance of an announcement even before then as well, possibly with a Nintendo Direct.

The holiday season of 2014 is when you can expect the game to be released.

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Hab
Brawl was in development for a bit over 2 1/2 years with a full time staff of about 100, and dozens of outside contributors (literally we got that many contributors from outside sources for music alone). A 2014 release, at the latest (as in December 2014), will mean these two (not one) games were in development for about the same period of time.

Granted, most of the Brawl staff was Game Arts (who are a C-grade company) and people who had no prior fighting game experience. However, the technology used for the Wii with Brawl (minus a few motion sensor-related things) was virtually identical to the GameCube.

Unless the Smash 3DS and especially the Smash WiiU staff is already fully trained with how to make games on the 3DS and the WiiU (hint: they haven't made games for the WiiU yet), it's going to take longer. Unlike the Wii, the WiiU is actually a new console, requires dozens of employees to either learn new technology or get dropped from the project.

I know the Namco Bandai staff working on Smash WiiU and 3DS is one of the premiere staffs in the fighting game industry, but even they can't do that. They are dealing with new technology they haven't dealt with before (especially graphic related [which I can't wait to see]), a brand new console (instead of a GameCube with motion controls that were largely ignored in Brawl), this is their first crack at the bat with smash, and to top it all off, they're making 2 games on 2 completely different consoles.

I don't know about you, but knowing that, a 2016 release seems to be more and more likely. Initially I was expecting a 2014 release, and as of the past 6 or so months I've been saying 2015 is most likely, but the more I think about it, the more a 2016 release seems to be the most likely, as well as the most ideal for everyone (especially if this game looks, plays, and is as amazing as I am visualizing).

 

[Vintage Creep]

@ Hab
Brawl was in development for a bit over 2 1/2 years with a full time staff of about 100, and dozens of outside contributors (literally we got that many contributors from outside sources for music alone). A 2014 release, at the latest (as in December 2014), will mean these two (not one) games were in development for about the same period of time.

Granted, most of the Brawl staff was Game Arts (who are a C-grade company) and people who had no prior fighting game experience. However, the technology used for the Wii with Brawl (minus a few motion sensor-related things) was virtually identical to the GameCube.

Unless the Smash 3DS and especially the Smash WiiU staff is already fully trained with how to make games on the 3DS and the WiiU (hint: they haven't made games for the WiiU yet), it's going to take longer. Unlike the Wii, the WiiU is actually a new console, requires dozens of employees to either learn new technology or get dropped from the project.

I know the Namco Bandai staff working on Smash WiiU and 3DS is one of the premiere staffs in the fighting game industry, but even they can't do that. They are dealing with new technology they haven't dealt with before (especially graphic related [which I can't wait to see]), a brand new console (instead of a GameCube with motion controls that were largely ignored in Brawl), this is their first crack at the bat with smash, and to top it all off, they're making 2 games on 2 completely different consoles.

I don't know about you, but knowing that, a 2016 release seems to be more and more likely. Initially I was expecting a 2014 release, and as of the past 6 or so months I've been saying 2015 is most likely, but the more I think about it, the more a 2016 release seems to be the most likely, as well as the most ideal for everyone (especially if this game looks, plays, and is as amazing as I am visualizing).

Yeah I see your points. That makes me wonder if making two games at the same time is a smart idea. I always found Iwata's announcement pretty useless and it happened too early. That E3 kinda sucked so I saw the Smash announcement like a sweetener. I hated the fact that it came long before the game was even in development. And maybe making the game for both Wii U and 3DS isn't that smart. Obviously it is commercially, but it's not like PS3 and Vita which can run the same game almost completely. They're two different consoles, completely different, I don't really see why develop both games in the same time... And let's face it, Wii U's one will be awesome, 3DS' one will be, content-wise, like Melee at best. At this point, I would spend all my energy on the Wii U and maybe later make another one for 3DS.

I always predicted the cancellation of the 3DS Smash or anyway the game being post-poned. I actually hope it happens, a release on the same day seems impossible to me.

 

[fogbadge]

i cant see us getting a trailer any earlier than e3 1013

 

[Ferio_Kun]

i cant see us getting a trailer any earlier than e3 1013

Quoted for truth. I think this is a really good bet for at least a trailer.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Well let's hope they surprise us

 

[Big-Cat]

Unless the Smash 3DS and especially the Smash WiiU staff is already fully trained with how to make games on the 3DS and the WiiU (hint: they haven't made games for the WiiU yet), it's going to take longer. Unlike the Wii, the WiiU is actually a new console, requires dozens of employees to either learn new technology or get dropped from the project.

Namco's got Tekkent Tag Tournament 2 coming out at launch for the WiiU. It may just be a port, but they probably have the fundamentals under their belt to make the game.

and to top it all off, they're making 2 games on 2 completely different consoles.

Yet these games will more than likely be identical in gameplay, despite what you, yourself, may think.

My guess for a release for at least the WiiU version will be either late 2013 or early 2014. Taking Namco's working prototype time into account, this is pretty reasonable. However, the development time will depend on a lot of things really.

• Any big features such as another SSE (I hope not.)?
• Will Namco's experience with the genre speed up the process greatly? Case in point, Soul Calibur V was made in under a year though the quality of the game is YMMV.
• How large is the full time team?
• What are the priorities for the developers?

 

[Vintage Creep]

Well I hope in another, better, more inspired SSE, why not?
I also hope the all-stars mode to be scrapped off. It's simply boring to do that mode with EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER. Classic mode is enough, with that you unlock the character's trophy, and other trophies (maybe 3 per character like Melee but better?) you get it in the new Story Mode and by simply playing with him in multiplayer.

 

[Big-Cat]

Because the SSE was a waste of time and resources that could've been put into making a better game. At the very least, how the story is told, and what it's about, should be handled differently. Something like integrating Classic and Adventure mode could potentially fix that up. I mean, look at DoA5 and BlazBlue.

But I digress.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

SSE was an interesting idea, but it needed work. The levels were very monotonous, and the story could be very difficult to follow. Even some basic stuff, like the enemies, needed to be worked on. I think that if it were more polished, it could have been really good.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Well the story was kinda childish and really simple... The problem was that the game itself was really monotonous, and the enemies uninspired. Also they were too many. I liked the trophy stand thing, gotta catch 'em all like, but 1) Too many enemies 2) They were ugly, and I didn't really gave a crap to get them all, even if I did for the sake of completeness.

I would love a new story with actual Nintendo enemies, with maybe only the main antagonist as an original characte (who knows, maybe playable?).

 

[ItsSilverLPs]

E3 2013 for sure.
But maybe some bigger news will be revealed earlier.

 

[nessokman]

Take into consideration all of the factors-
(some said in earlier posts)
-will they have a large story mode?
(probably not considering the 3ds' limitations on space)
-will they make more modes than usual?

-When was it started?

The answer to the last one is your best way to guess. The game started at the end of march after Kid Icarus, Uprising launched. Then it was still on the drawing board. Eight or so months have passed since then, so it is safe to say that they are now doing the character models and designing the stages/ updating older stages.

The answer is probably going to be E3 2013, but given Nintendo's love for leaving us hanging, It may be near the end of 2013 that we get any kind of trailer.

Be patient, and Sakurai will give us a masterpiece.

 

[Beninator]

I was okay with the story of Subspace. It's a Smash Bros. game, I don't need the story to blow me away. The thing I hated was that the gameplay was so dull and boring. And it just felt like the enemies were cheap on Intense difficulty (way too many attacking at once.)

 

[Jaedrik]

The year 0079 of the universal century.

 

[Metal Overlord]

^ Haha nice Gundam reference

 

[Ninka_kiwi]

I dunno if anyone else thinks this, but you guys think we might get Sm4sh exclusive reveal as the cover of Nintendo power's final Magazine?

It's a long shot, but I'd really like it if they did that to go out with a bang. if not that, I'm gunna assume E3 2013.

 

[SmashChu]

I've been thinking that the reason we haven't seen any thing is because of Nintendo Land. It wouldn't make sense to show off a Nintendo themed title when Smash Brothers does a better job and is better received. I wouldn't be surprised if we wont see it until after that game launched.

Nintendo has been far to secretive with the Wii U. They have shown off barely anything. I think the only game we really know about from them is Nintendo Land. I took a hiatus because there is no reason talking about a game we know nothing about. I think it's time to leave again.

 

[Orngeblu]

Totally can't wait for an announcement trailer. They're working on the 3DS version first (which will most likely be crap). I heard that the two will connect, though, and you will be able to customize characters and send them to the Wii U version, which makes it worth buying the 3DS version. :3 I'm gonna make a bad *** Toon Link! Mwahahaha!

JUST, HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T GET RID OF TOON LINK, OR I WILL BE PISSED!!!!

 

[DarkShadow20]

I dunno if anyone else thinks this, but you guys think we might get Sm4sh exclusive reveal as the cover of Nintendo power's final Magazine?

It's a long shot, but I'd really like it if they did that to go out with a bang. if not that, I'm gunna assume E3 2013.

I was thinking that too. Dec would be plenty of time for them to have something to show.

 

[Wario Bros.]

The safest best is E3 2013 like everyone is saying but I have the feeling we could get it at the Wii U launch Nintendo Direct show (but my hopes for that is nowhere near as high as E3 '13).

I almost don't care when it's revealed but I'm itching to learn something new about the game rather than just the two games will connect with each other and it's being developed by Namco Bandai.

 

[Arcadenik]

I honestly think it might be announced at E3 2013, assuming the world doesn't end in 2 months.

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

Never. Nintendo is going for a new marketing strategy where they won't promote their games until a month before they come out.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Never. Nintendo is going for a new marketing strategy where they won't promote their games until a month before they come out.

Well that would be better than announcing a game before even starting the development.

 

[Pichu4SSB4]

Well that would be better than announcing a game before even starting the development.

Not really, because then the game won't really get much time to develop a fanbase and many won't be aware of it. The launch wouldn't be a success if they went with the stragedy of announcing it one month before it's release. Brawl was delayed here and there, but still feels like it was rushed.

Anyway, E3 2013 is my biggest prediction for a trailer. I wonder how the trailer will start, will it introduce us with Mario, Link, Kirby and Pikachu in their Brawl graphics and upgrading to HD graphics?

 

[Orngeblu]

I agree with Pichu. If they release a trailer earlier, it'll build hype for the game. Besides, I WANT A TRAILER NAO. <3

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I agree with Pichu. If they release a trailer earlier, it'll build hype for the game. Besides, I WANT A TRAILER NAO. <3

I think you mean you want the game nao.

 

[Orngeblu]

I think you mean you want the game nao.

Well, I don't know what I am buying yet. ;D

 

[Vintage Creep]

Not really, because then the game won't really get much time to develop a fanbase and many won't be aware of it. The launch wouldn't be a success if they went with the stragedy of announcing it one month before it's release. Brawl was delayed here and there, but still feels like it was rushed.

Anyway, E3 2013 is my biggest prediction for a trailer. I wonder how the trailer will start, will it introduce us with Mario, Link, Kirby and Pikachu in their Brawl graphics and upgrading to HD graphics?

Yeah well that was sarcasm, obviously you're right :asd:

 

[jigglover]

I honestly think it might be announced at E3 2013, assuming the world doesn't end in 2 months.

The saddest thing, is that I will never get to play SSB4! All this speculation for nothing!