Grab Combos and other cheapness? [Newb Post]

[Little_Penguin]

I'm looking for some cheap tricks to use on my friends with the ice climbers. We are all very unskilled, button mashing players. No shuffling, wavedashing, or anything fancy. I'm tried to learn, but I'm not at good enough to do anything consistently. Besides, we never play 1v1, mostly 4 player FFAs and sometimes 2v2.

So far, I'm had good results in FFAs using just strong attacks, neutral b, aerials, and spamming the d-smash with the c-stick.

Reading about the climbers on these boards, I hear that they have an insane grab game. The only cheap grab trick I can get to work on a regular basis is grabbing, and then moving the joystick down and the c-stick up/sideways, which I find to be a good, consistent finisher for anyone with triple digit damage. I can't find any chain grabs that work, though it is most likely a fault on my part. I've read that using the c-stick to throw will have nana smash attack along with a regular throw, though I only get a regular throw when I do this. Is this just an error on my part?

What other cheap grab tricks and combos are there for me to explore? Could you point a newb to some easily abused ones?

 

[theONEjanitor]

ifyou C-stick forward during a grab, nana should f-smash the opponent. i duno if it works with other directions.

as for cheap combos, they probably wont work in FFA, because theres too much going on, you'll probably be interrupted.

for quick things
grab, then jab and immediately hold down and B..nana will shoot ice at your helpless opponent, after that you can c-stick forward for a smash...thats about30-40 damage off of one grab.


you can also learn to wobble if they're at mid-percents, which i suppose take a little bit of practice. the easiest way to do it, is start off the same way as above. grab, jab, immediately hold down and B...nana will do ice
then while continuing to hold down, rhythmically tap A, so that popo and nana are exchanging hits one after the other and make sure you keep the same rhythm. its an infinite combo that they can't get out of, which your friends will probably call you gay for using. when you get them to a high percent, you can of course just c-stick forward to fsmash them to their doom. but like i said, in a FFA you probably won't have time to do it.

my guess is that you can't short hop at will, but if you can short hop-down+B takes like 30 damage sometimes