Getting/Performing Falco's second stage illusion cancel help

[spiritdragon]

Ok Falco pros, I have a problem with Falco's phantasm. I'm trying to perform his second phantasm cancel, but I just don't have the timing for it. Is there a specific thing I need to do before it can be done? Or is it just the timing?
If some of you are asking what I'm talking about, Falco can cancel his illusion into a shorter version. This makes for helpful recoveries and general mindgames. Now from what I've experienced, there is 2 points in which you can cancel the illusion. One is right after the ping which makes the phantasm really short show in this vid at 01:01 - 01:05. This one is really easy to do and I can do it EVERY phantasm if I needed to.

The one I need to know how to perform is the second point in which you can cancel a phantasm. It makes the phantasm shorter, but not as short as the first point, and is not as long as a simple non cancelled phantasm. I don't know of any vids that shows just this trick alone and so I have no example to show you guys aside from the description If I find a vid that shows it I'll edit this post with it.

So thats it, some help please?

 

[Junpappy]

I thought you could cancel the phantasm during any of the five frames (or however many frames the move lasts)

 

[Driz]

It all based on timing, if you push it anytime during the actual phantasm thats when it will stop, so perfect the timing of how long after the ping(the way I time it) and you should get used to controling how far you go!

 

[Eggm]

Its all just timing and practice, I can get nearly any distance I want , quite consistently.

 

[spiritdragon]

Allright guys thanks, I guess I'll just have to practice it, I'll get it down in like 5 minutes >.>