Ganondorf gone?

[ThaMasterHand]

They just announced that King Dedede was in the game and that he will be a heavyweight along with Bowser and DK. That makes 3 heavyweights in this game. Bowser, DK, and Ganondorf were the 3 heavyweights in Melee. Since the 3rd heavyweight in Brawl has been announced, this might mean Ganondorf's not in the game because that might be the only heavyweights they have. I don't like this cause he was one of my favorites. Any thoughts?

 

[A2ZOMG]

Nah, all updates are relative to what is currently known. Why can't you have more than three heavyweights in a huge game like Brawl? 4 player clash of titans ftw!

 

[SeanW]

I'm sorry, but that's kinda silly to think they'd give Ganondorf das boot. If I remember correctly, DK was the only heavyweight in the 64 game. Then Bowser and Ganondorf were added to the mix in Melee as heavy characters. So it's clear to see there is a posibility of more heavy characters, so don't count the keeper of the Triforce of Power just yet.

 

[Talendime]

There is absolutely no possible way that Ganondorf will not be in Brawl.
What would the Zelda series do without him? And since there's going to be a lot more characters this time, the ratio of heavy to light should probably stay the same, right?

 

[d0c926]

No way he will be out, he will come back with TP look with those cool swords

 

[-Knux-]

So this means Ike ISN'T a heavyweight...

 

[GaryCXJk]

Ganondorf is the piece of the puzzle that is required to make it complete. He's the hole in the donut that keeps it from being called a cake. He's the hat on the Mexican to make sure he isn't called Spanish.

You get the point.

 

[A2ZOMG]

So this means Ike ISN'T a heavyweight...

Ike doesn't have the constitution to be considered heavyweight. Even with his heavy *** sword, he's probably only above average weight at best.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Ganondorf is a big antagonist, so it's quite likely that he'll be fighting once more. However, he'd be using a sword instead of imitating Captain Falcon.

 

[Cojiro]

Notice how any SSB/SSBM unlockables haven't been revealed?

SSB: Ness, Luigi, Captain "RapeSauce" Falcon, Jigglypuff

SSBM: Luigi, Doctor Mario, Jigglypuff, Pichu, Young Link, Game & Watch, Ganondorf, Falco, Marth, Roy, Mewtwo

I doubt they will all return, but some are shoe ins. Luigi, RapeSauce, and Ganondorf belong in this category.

 

[craiigg]

probably the most ridiculous assumption ever

besides both ganondorf and luigi have been *semi* confirmed by a couple of ninty reps accidentally x__x

 

[crotch protector]

I'm sorry, but that's kinda silly to think they'd give Ganondorf das boot. If I remember correctly, DK was the only heavyweight in the 64 game. Then Bowser and Ganondorf were added to the mix in Melee as heavy characters. So it's clear to see there is a posibility of more heavy characters, so don't count the keeper of the Triforce of Power just yet.

why would they give Ganondorf a German submarine?

 

[Raikage]

No way, Ganondorf is definitely in. If Ganondorf isn't in Brawl I will eat my melee disc.

Brawl needs more heavyweights anyway, Melee was far too skewed towards fast characters, It'd be nice to see the heavy characters be able to fight back in Brawl. If it uses Super Armour (No flinching) liberally, then slow characters will be a force to be reckoned with, as it should be.

 

[blayde_axel]

Notice he never mentions anyone that hasn't been updated on the Dojo yet. Yeah, you don't have anything to worry about.

Well, except Ness. I dunno what was up with that.

 

[Titan05]

Agreed, no way he's out. Ganondorf is the only truly evil character in Brawl. (until Ridley shows up, then it'll be a race to the bottom)
It would be nice to have competitive heavyweights.

 

[freeman123]

They just announced that King Dedede was in the game and that he will be a heavyweight along with Bowser and DK. That makes 3 heavyweights in this game. Bowser, DK, and Ganondorf were the 3 heavyweights in Melee. Since the 3rd heavyweight in Brawl has been announced, this might mean Ganondorf's not in the game because that might be the only heavyweights they have. I don't like this cause he was one of my favorites. Any thoughts?

Yeah, because it's unthinkable that there could be more than 3.

And isn't Ike a heavyweight?

 

[TenshiOni]

If anything, this guarantees Ganondorf. I mean, King Dedede means more villains and Ganondorf is a MUCH more well-known Nintendo villain.

Zelda is arguably Nintendo's third most well known franchise. Third to Mario and Pokemon.

The Zelda franchise won't have just three reps. Too big for that. And after Link and Zelda, Ganondorf is undoubtedly the most important from that series.

 

[Mike1993]

Yeah, but Midna might get in too. She would be cool. Back on topic, how did you come up with this theory that Ganondorf is out anyway? I dont think he'll be returning unless if he has new moves, and isnt a Captain Falcon clone.

 

[error_alt_delete]

why do you think that? this has no effect on ganondwarf!

 

[Mike1993]

What? First of all, its GanonDORF, no Dwarfs mate. Second, Sakurai or some other Nintendo guy said that MOST or ALL clones will be gone, and who is a clone of Cpt. Falcon? GanonDORF.

 

[Raikage]

You misunderstand, Mike1993. Sakurai said there would be no cloned characters, meaning no characters that copy a moveset from another character. Ganondorf can return, but he won't be a clone of Captain Falcon anymore, he'll have brand spanking new moves. Same for any other clones that return.

This is good news! More unique characters! The clones were pretty lazy in melee.

 

[Bassoonist]

Ganondorf can not be gone. You can quote me on that.

I say that simply because it makes no sense to have Link and Zelda playable but not Ganondorf. You have to have all three!

 

[burrito]

Gannondorf is definitely going to be in Brawl, no doubt. There's no way they wouldn't have the complete tri-force for Brawl.

 

[Drake3]

Why are people responding to this...hell why am I responding to this. That was the worst logic I've ever heard.

 

[JPW]

that's silly. Gannondorf will be there. Not having Gannondorf is like not having Bowser. Gannondorf is a Zelda Rep. And probably one of the most important to have. How can you have Link and Zelda and not gannondorf. There's supposed to be a roster of over 30. There's bound to be more heavyweights.

Also I guarantee Gannondorf wont be a clone. He's be using his Sword and Magic in my view that's for sure.

Gannondorf was only a clone in Melee also because of time restraints.

 

[headbusa]

im gonna look for it but i was told somewhere there is a Q&A that says that link along with zelda and ganon are getting their TP models for ssbb dont quote or flame plz ill look so wait for a repost or edit...

 

[KAFOR]

They just announced that King Dedede was in the game and that he will be a heavyweight along with Bowser and DK. That makes 3 heavyweights in this game. Bowser, DK, and Ganondorf were the 3 heavyweights in Melee. Since the 3rd heavyweight in Brawl has been announced, this might mean Ganondorf's not in the game because that might be the only heavyweights they have. I don't like this cause he was one of my favorites. Any thoughts?

Cease amusing yourself, I doubt you surely mean this.

 

[AIM0001]

Nah there's no way Ganondorf is out. As i stated on my thread about who's next to announce I said cpt. Falcon but my 2nd choice was a tie between him and luigi. Point being will hear about him real soon hopefully.

 

[EPX2]

Sakurai never said there wouldn't be any clones in Brawl, so I don't know where you guys are getting this info from. Regardless, Ganondorf is obviously returning; to think otherwise means you're not very bright.

 

[Jackal478]

THATS GOOD LOGIC.

.../sarcasm

 

[d0c926]

These r some of worse arguments to said that Ganondorf won't return. One he is Link main emeny making already top choices for the Zelda franchise, also he is one of few clones that people want back from Melee and with wide success of Twilight Princess with updated look they could easily make a great move set.

 

[~N9NE~]

Ganondorf isn't going anywhere. The only thing he is going to do is kick your *** for thinking he won't be in the game.

 

[raul]

They just announced that King Dedede was in the game and that he will be a heavyweight along with Bowser and DK. That makes 3 heavyweights in this game. Bowser, DK, and Ganondorf were the 3 heavyweights in Melee. Since the 3rd heavyweight in Brawl has been announced, this might mean Ganondorf's not in the game because that might be the only heavyweights they have. I don't like this cause he was one of my favorites. Any thoughts?

Wow, this is just like an LSAT question I've been studying for law school. In fact, I could imagine this in the LSAT test books from Kaplan or Princeton review, etc. It is very similar to an assupmtion question. I'll play along...

Let's recap, you believe Ganondorf will not appear in Brawl because the game's former, Melee only had three heavy-weight characters, Bowser, Ganondorf and Donkey Kong. There fore, if Bowser, DK and King Dedede are the 3 classified then Ganondorf cannot appear in the new game, Brawl.

What is the assumption? You assume that 3 is the maximum number of heavy-weight type characters that can be in a SSB game.

However, there is no such rule or stipulation that I have ever seen written, typed, spoken, or brailed (joke) that has said such a thing. I don't think you much to worry about. Consider the facts:

1.) The Legend of Zelda video game series has an enormus fan base. While Link was the lone representitve in SSB 64, he was not alone in Melee and along with Link, Princess Zelda, Sheik, Young Link and Ganondorf all made appearances. Now in Brawl we already have Link and Zelda as confirmed characters. Chances are that atleast 2 more Zelda characters are possible.

2.) Ganondorf has a very large fan base. Fans of both the SSB series and Zelda series will be in outrage if he is not included. Hell, I'll be in outrage.

3.) Ganondorf is a villain. Villains have been showing up more and more in the SSB series. In Melee, Bowser, Ganondorf, and technically MewTwo all made appearances. Now in Brawl, Bowser returns along with villains/rivals/antagonists, MetaKnight, Wario and King Dedede. This further enhances Ganondorf's likeliness because that he is a villain and an extremely popular one.

 

[Cojiro]

Hey look, it's a light bulb!

im gonna look for it but i was told somewhere there is a Q&A that says that link along with zelda and ganon are getting their TP models for ssbb dont quote or flame plz ill look so wait for a repost or edit...

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200708/N07.0802.1741.54921.htm

Not a direct confirmation, but seriously. It's Ganondorf FFS. He'll be there.

 

[CommanderGrit]

Wario will probably be a heavyweight too. And ganondorf must come back! he was a main antagonist!

 

[raul]

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200708/N07.0802.1741.54921.htm

Not a direct confirmation, but seriously. It's Ganondorf FFS. He'll be there.

It is not a direct confirmation, but it sounds like Ganondorf might just be in the process of being cleaned up with this new TP look and soon enough...boom there he is.

 

[kainsword]

That's the worst logic I've ever seen. I'll save my breath and give you some mercy, you'll be flamed to crsip just by even thinking this pathetic thought.

 

[raul]

That's the worst logic I've ever seen. I'll save my breath and give you some mercy, you'll be flamed to crsip just by even thinking this pathetic thought.

Flamed to a crisp? Is that:

1.) He'll be a pile of ashes--flammed to a crisp

OR

2.) "Oh, I burnt my marshmellow"--flammed to a crisp? Just trying to get a visual.

But you're right, that is the worst logic ever, and yet he's got us talking about it...hmm....