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†Barton†

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Ok I'm a big gamer, I like RPGs, MMOs, shooters, pretty much anything except for trivia games. Now I've had this laptop for a while now and whenever I play a game it gets really laggy. Hell, I lag on runescape xD

Now I'm planning to buy a new computer but my budget is 1000-, and I want a desktop this time... So what model would get me the most bang for my buck? I've been looking at the Alienware Aurora but idk if it's the best.
 

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"Bang-for-your-buck" and Alienware typically don't sit well together, if you know what I mean.

If you want a good gaming computer on a budget, build it yourself from components. It is a very fun and rewarding experience. Plus every time you play with it, especially when you bring it to a LAN party, you can brag about how you built it yourself.

The main things to make sure you have are lots of fast RAM (3 gigs at least. 4+ preferably), a large hard drive with fast I/O (is 7200 rpm good by today's standards?), and an excellent internet connection. (I know it's not a component, but it matters!) Video card of about 256Megs in storage, and the level of GeForce 8000+ maybe? It's been a while since I bought a video card.

Or if you don't build your own, at least look for similar components inside the computer you do buy.
 

Crimson King

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Avoid Alienware. Dell bought them a few years back, and they have lost A LOT of quality.

As for what makes a great gaming computer? Build it. I have two GTS 250 Nvidia cards with 1GB each, running in SLi mode as well as 4 GB of RAM. For now, I can demolish most games. In a few months this won't be fast enough. You have to decide what games you like, and what games you'll want. I maxed out my upgrades, so I will need a new motherboard to go any further, but if you buy a nice enough mobo you can upgrade for a long time.
 

Overload

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Building your own PC is definitely the way to go. It's almost always cheaper. A friend of mine spent $900 for the parts to build his own and it's pretty impressively fast. It's not too challenging to put together a computer, and you'll save a decent amount of money in the process.
 

†Barton†

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Ok, I can't build a computer. Can I get a good guide for it? :D If I need to torrent I can.
 

Crimson King

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Google will be your friend. Read up on Motherboards + processors for compatibility. I spent a grand total of $2000 on mine, which had some amazing stuff in it. Make sure to know what you want in advanced. If you want two graphics cards for example, you can't have a nice sound card unless you have a HUGE rig. My sound card, Creative Labs X-Fi, is AWFUL as a high-end card, so I'd advise against that.
 

Superstar

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I agree with the building thing. Cheapest, most customizable one.

Nowadays, Graphic Card memory doesn't really matter too much [and 256MB is small by today's standards AltF4 :p]. Its the rest that matters. I've also heard that the CPU clock speed isn't that big an indicator as well, as an i7 2.4Ghz Quad will run single threaded stuff better than a Core 2 Duo 3Ghz Duo I hear.

As far as building goes, this cost me $600:
3Ghz Core 2 Duo [E8400]
9600GT [512MB GDDR3 is you care about that].
4GB DDR2 800 RAM
600GB or so Hard drive space [7200rpm]
Pretty decent PSU [550W, 2 12V rails at 22A each, 75% efficiency].
The usual DVD burner [Lightscribe isn't that expensive, should have gotten it].

Got this about half a year ago I believe.

And I had an Antec 900 case, which at the time was EXPENSIVE [$120 I think]. 4 fans. Really, the computer would have cost me $550 or less if I had a more reasonable case. XD

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Since you haven't built a computer ever and don't understand how, I'll help you "start out" by typing out a list of parts. Useful first step to learn about:

Motherboard
CPU
RAM
CD/DVD
Graphics Card
Powersupply
Hard Drive
Case
*Optional* - A CPU Cooler, depending on what CPU you buy it might come with a crappy one. Mostly if you plan on overclocking
*Optional* - Thermal paste, if you buy a CPU Cooler. I hear the Arctic Silver 5 stuff is good.
*Optional* - A Sound card. Not necessary since Motherboards have built in Audio, but sound cards give better sound.

More stuff I can mention, but it'd be too long. I can only mention a few tips to keep in mind.

1) The CPU must match the motherboard. Motherboards have a socket "type", and only a CPU of the same type will work. For example, LGA 775, AM2+, and AM3 are all socket types [the first is Intel, the latter 2 are AMD]. They don't tend to be backwards compatible, forward, or anything, THOUGH I hear AMD CPUs can do that to some extent.
2) The RAM must match the motherboard, but on the DDR number. DDR2 RAM will only work on a DDR2 Motherboard, DDR3 RAM will only work on DDR3 motherboards. The RAM SPEED doesn't matter as much, a DDR2 1066 motherboard will support a DDR2 800 RAM. Though, I don't know if you can put RAM of a higher speed on a lower motherboard [like, putting DDR2 1066 RAM on a DDR2 800 Motherboard].
3) Don't skimp on the Power Supply. I skimped, and I THINK that's where my reduced performance is coming from [that or TF2 is just getting worse in min specs, I had to enable multicore and TF2's multicore is...unstable at times].
4) I'd recomment SATA for your CD/DVD and your Hard Drive. Don't get IDE.
 

Victawr

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Build your PC, saves you ALL of your money. $500 alone can get you running Crysis on Very High. Go to Tigerdirect and places online and buy all the parts. The only difficult part of building a computer is putting in the processor, because its hella scary.
 

noradseven

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Why is it scary? :D
Probably because you could be all ohh ohh don't break don't break, but seriously its extremly easy I don't know why you would be scared, also don't build your computer on an exceptionally dry day and remember to keep yourself grounded... hold the computer case the whole time.

Also newegg+tigerdirect will have everything you need compare prices for parts and get the best deals. The guys up top listed some nice stuff follow there advice.
 

Sraigux

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Build your own, it's cheap and you get exactly what you want, may I suggest:

I would suggest the Q6600 for your CPU because it overclocks great and is the cheapest intel quad you can get. You also need a mobo that has the features you want that has a socket LGA 755 for your CPU

Don't bother getting more than 4 gigs of RAM because it doesn't show after 4 gigs, and make sure it is DDR3, the best bang for the buck ram is DDR3-1333

Get any harddrive you like, it really does not matter

Make sure the power supply you buy is 80+ certified (that means it's efficient and actually uses most of the power it makes)

BUY A GOOD AFTERMARKET COOLER IF YOU PLAN ON OVERCLOCKING OR YOUR CPU WILL BE HOT

Buy a nice midtower case that has decent cooling too

And finally the video card. I personally like ATI because they are cheaper and have better antialiasing but plenty of other people like Nvidia because of their driver support and are better without the antialiasing. Buy the best graphics card you can with the money you have left over. If you want lowscale, go for the HD4850, Medium scale I would suggest the HD4870, and extreme I would go for the GTX 285

And to buy all of these parts go to www.newegg.com they have the cheapest parts you can buy.
 

Crimson King

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Don't bother getting more than 4 gigs of RAM because it doesn't show after 4 gigs, and make sure it is DDR3, the best bang for the buck ram is DDR3-1333

And finally the video card. I personally like ATI because they are cheaper and have better antialiasing but plenty of other people like Nvidia because of their driver support and are better without the antialiasing. Buy the best graphics card you can with the money you have left over. If you want lowscale, go for the HD4850, Medium scale I would suggest the HD4870, and extreme I would go for the GTX 285.
Both of these are horrible suggestions. You can use more than 4GB if you are using a 64-Bit OS, which I advise anyway.

ATI is a HORRIBLE card brand. If you plan to do Linux gaming, you are wasting your money. If you are staying just in Windows, I'd still advise using Nvidia just because their cards are usually cheaper for better quality.
 

Sraigux

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Both of these are horrible suggestions. You can use more than 4GB if you are using a 64-Bit OS, which I advise anyway.

ATI is a HORRIBLE card brand. If you plan to do Linux gaming, you are wasting your money. If you are staying just in Windows, I'd still advise using Nvidia just because their cards are usually cheaper for better quality.
There have been many benchmarks about how much RAM you need, above 6GB you see only very small increases, 4GB gets you the best bang for the buck

You are right, ATI is lesser quality, but that is because you pay less.
An exeption though is that the HD4850 is 20$ cheaper than a 9800GT but you have par to 5% better fps with it.
And it does suck on linux, I am really ashamed of ATI for building new cards but never improving their driver support

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