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G&W combo against captain falcon

phantoon

Smash Cadet
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Feb 28, 2015
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Hey everyone, I haven't seen anyone post about this but I've been doing this combo on falcons for a while now. Basically since the patch before 1.0.8 the knockback of utilt was changed which was a really.... weird change but anyway i thought all combos were lost at the time but that's not the case at all. Basically against falcon i found this one (bear in mind it only works in the range of 3-10% iirc): dthrow -> utilt -> dthrow -> utilt -> double bair if they DI behind you OR nair + upB if they're directly above you.

Now i ought to explain a bit since this probably looks weird as hell. When you first dthrow -> utilt, falcon ends up behind you and you are able to regrab him if you turn around quickly and press grab (don't accidentally dash! :p) at which point you can repeat the process and do aerials to finish the combo.

This combo CAN work if falcon is at 0%, however skilled falcons will simply shield the utilt and punish you, so beware.

This combo might be able to also work on falco but i haven't tested that properly and in FG whenever i tried it i got inconsistent results.
 

NotAsian

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Apr 19, 2015
Messages
205
I'm having trouble with the double bair after the up tilts it's not hitting all the full hits and they escape and can punish me from underneath maybe they are not high enough precent yet? I miss the good days when you can uptilt falcon to like 45 then nair then up b then fair haha stay mad falcon
 

phantoon

Smash Cadet
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Feb 28, 2015
Messages
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after the first bair i usually fastfall until i'm almost on the ground and then quickly jump and bair again. the timing is kind of strict and sometimes you'll only land one bair: it's all up to your opponents DI really. if after the second dthrow + utilt they DI directly above try a nair instead of bair (uair works too but i personally go for nair). but hey, if you only land one bair it's better than nothing, at least you have a poor (but still decent) version of the combo before utilt got its knockback changed :p
 
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Aphistemi

Smash Ace
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Feb 6, 2015
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You mean something like this?



then yeah, it's a pretty good combo, it can kill on certain stages too, if you get the up b to connect.
 

phantoon

Smash Cadet
Joined
Feb 28, 2015
Messages
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You mean something like this?



then yeah, it's a pretty good combo, it can kill on certain stages too, if you get the up b to connect.
nope, this one at 7:20

EDIT: sorry that i didn't post this video in the OP, at the time i didn't have this video as proof :p
 
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CaikLazer

Smash Cadet
Joined
Mar 22, 2015
Messages
37
Location
California
Hey everyone, I haven't seen anyone post about this but I've been doing this combo on falcons for a while now. Basically since the patch before 1.0.8 the knockback of utilt was changed which was a really.... weird change but anyway i thought all combos were lost at the time but that's not the case at all. Basically against falcon i found this one (bear in mind it only works in the range of 3-10% iirc): dthrow -> utilt -> dthrow -> utilt -> double bair if they DI behind you OR nair + upB if they're directly above you.

Now i ought to explain a bit since this probably looks weird as hell. When you first dthrow -> utilt, falcon ends up behind you and you are able to regrab him if you turn around quickly and press grab (don't accidentally dash! :p) at which point you can repeat the process and do aerials to finish the combo.

This combo CAN work if falcon is at 0%, however skilled falcons will simply shield the utilt and punish you, so beware.

This combo might be able to also work on falco but i haven't tested that properly and in FG whenever i tried it i got inconsistent results.
Thanks for the combo I use it ALOT. Very good.
 
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Folie

Smash Apprentice
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Apr 8, 2015
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135
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Calgary, AB
this was mentioned before, idk where, but I think we figured this out back when the utilt change happened
 
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