Full SL to intercept recoveries.

[PHYTO-1]

Warning: High Risk ; Higher Reward.
Pick up on your opponents habits and maybe get a flashy kill

Recoveries that opponents like to attack out of and bypass the ledge grab. Ex: Sonic likes to UpB into fair

Sonic UpB, Mega Man UpB, Bowser Jr. UpB / Side B, Wario Side B

Recoveries that have specific animations before grabbing the ledge. Ex: Ike's aether

Ike UpB, Cloud UpB, Shulk UpB, Kirby UpB, Little Mac UpB / Side B


Recoveries that normally dont grab the ledge at all (or have a very small sweetspot)

Villager Side B, Luigi Side B / Down B, Dr Mario Down B, Wario Down B, Peach Side B, Bayo Up B

Recoveries that behave differently when they come in contact with a hurtbox

Dark/Pit Side B, Captain Falcon Side B, Ike Side B, Sheik Down B, ZSS down B,


Recoveries that opponents like to use to climb onto the stage

Fox/Falco side B, DK up B, Ryu Side B , MK neutral B, Bayo Side B


Recoveries that opponents to like to go high and onto the stage with

Mewtwo UpB, Zelda Up B, King Dedede Up B, High Aura Lucario UpB, Sonic Up B


Also any recovery that doesnt sweetspot when poorly spaced, which is like a lot of them but most commonly I see Ryu UpB, Pac Man UpB, Ganon/Falcon Side B, Fox/Falco UpB.

Very effective on Ike's Up B, pulled this off twice on my opponent forcing him to try and space out his up B lower- which isn't always possible depending on his horizontal distance to the ledge.

Full Charge SL also has super armor throughout the length of its hitbox.

 

[cwjakesteel]

Good stuff! So the hitbox goes below the stage?

 

[Zoramine Fae]

Hitbox definitely goes below the stage.

Nice to know how much this is applicable to, although I don't use it often I do use it occasionally. It just happens to be situational since I prefer opponents to be above me, that's all.

 

[PHYTO-1]

Good stuff! So the hitbox goes below the stage?

not really. dsmash does a better job at that. its reach does cover the horizontal magnet zone for ledges though.

 

[Zoramine Fae]

not really. dsmash does a better job at that. its reach does cover the horizontal magnet zone for ledges though.

the hitbox DOES go beneath the stage, but not by much. You can see it a lot easier on Smashville than on other stages.

At least, that's what I have felt like playing on it. Not entirely certain if this is true, but I can nail lower-than-edge opponents whenever I go to my friend's house for Wii U funtimes or just by watching youtube for long enough.

 

[inconspikuous]

good stuff phyto. lol for some reason i feel like you stopped playing for like a year and then suddenly you come back with like 5 useful threads.

 

[PHYTO-1]

good stuff phyto. lol for some reason i feel like you stopped playing for like a year and then suddenly you come back with like 5 useful threads.

Splatoon. They just announced new updates for the game so I'll be back to splatoon soon enough.


most importantly, i was inspired by the melee meta where every little thing is taken note of despite how difficult and or insignificant it may seem. ex) X-character can do this to Y-character at this percent if and only if they DI this way.