Friends...

[9Kplus1]

Secondaries for Kirby? Yeah, he might need one.

We don't have many "get *****" match ups, but we do have plenty of 40:60 match ups:

35:65 I had no idea whether IC's previous MU thread was extremely outdated, or not... someone correct me?
Nana's Worst

Popo - 25:50 [Bull****]

Ness - 55:45
Pikachu - 55:45
Link - 55:45
Meta Knight - 50:50
Lucas - 50:50
Sonic - 50:50
Toon Link - 50:50
Pit - 50:50
Wario - 50:50
Pokemon Trainer - 50:50
Marth - 45:55
Yoshi - 45:55
Lucario - 45:55
Diddy Kong - 45:55
Zelda - 40:60
Peach - 40:60
Game & Watch - 35:65
Snake - 30:70

40:60
Game & Watch's Worst

Olimar - 55:45
Toon Link - 55:45
DK - 50:50
Wario - 50:50
ZSS - 50:50
Metaknight - 40:60
Diddy - 40:60
Marth - 35:65
Snake - 35:65

40:60
Marth's Worst

Meta Knight - 35:65
King Dedede - 40:60
Snake - 40:60
ROB - 50:50
Donkey Kong - 50:50
Wolf - 50:50
Ice Climbers - 55:45
Zero Suit Samus - 55:45

40:60 Didn't really bother to finish this one >.>
ZSS's Worst

Pikachu - 50:50
Marth - 45:55
Snake - 45:55
Wario - 45:55
Ice Climbers - 45:55
Meta Knight - 40:60
Diddy Kong - 35:65
Falco - 30:70

40:60
Olimar's Worst

Ice Climbers - 55:45
Pikachu - 55:45
Zero Suit Samus - 55:45
Diddy Kong - 50:50
Falco - 50:50
Wario - 50:50
Mr. Game & Watch - 45:55
Sheik - 45:55
Wolf - 45:55
Yoshi - 45: 55
Marth - 40:60
Ness - 40:60
Peach - 40:60
ROB - 40:60
Luigi - 35:65
Meta Knight - 35:65

40:60
Snake's Worst


Zero Suit Samus - 55:45
Diddy Kong - 55:45
King Dedede - 55:45
Marth - 55:45

Wario - 50:50
Wolf - 50:50
Lucario - 50:50
Donkey Kong - 50:50
Falco - 50:50
Toon Link - 45:55
Meta Knight - 45:55
Pikachu - Slightly in Pika's advantage, slightly
Pit - 45:55
Olimar - 40:60
R.O.B - 40:60

40:60
Eemmkay's Worst

Snake - 55-:45
Diddy Kong - 55:45
Wario - 55:45
Falco - 55:45
Ice Climbers - 50:50

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Good secondaries for Kirby:










Roy is just too badass for a link.

 

[Asdioh]

Soo...the only character up there that I actually play semi-often is Pikachu, lol.

And I REALLY DOUBT that MK:ICs is 50:50.
loool

 

[Kewkky]

And I REALLY DOUBT that MK:ICs is 50:50.
loool

Top character mainers feel like disadvantaged MUs are closer to even than what others say it is, and people jump into the bandwagon because it's a top level who says it... When in actuality it's that the top levels get around each other's weaknesses while covering their own as much as possible, making it LOOK even-ish...

I personally feel Snake is even, but no one will believe me because I haven't proven myself to have a top level Kirby. But if I DID and had fanboys catering to my every whim, and had a tourney match where I ***** a Snake, they would agree and say the same.

 

[Lord Viper]

☆ As I said in the Kirby Q/A Thread: ☆

King Dedede: King Dedede can able to handle a number of Kirby's even and bad match up's. Snake, Marth, Donkey Kong, Wario, ROB, Lucario, Mr. Game & Watch, and Zero Suit Samus mostly. The king can clean near all of Kirby's bad match up's. He's not hard to master if your use to Kirby.

Snake: Same as the King, but can handle Ice Climbers and Meta Knight much better, but a bit more technical.

Marth: He's easier to use, but hard to master. Any character that's not Meta Knight, Snake, or Donkey Kong, Marth can handle Kirby's bad match up's.

Pikachu: Able to handle Snake, Wario, and Ice Climbers for Kirby.

Toon Link: He's easily underestimated, also he can handle Ice Climbers, Wario much better than Kirby. Maybe Mr. Game & Watch.... I have yet to test this, but I don't think so.

☆ But I'll go by your list: ☆

☆ Meta Knight isn't really a good secondary but a good main since there's a handful of match up's for Meta Knight that is real close or Kirby could handle better. But seconding him would nearly erase all of Kirby's trouble match up's, but not by a land slide. ☆

☆ Snake is a great secondary for the reason I already listed. ☆

☆ Wario would make Meta Knight, Mr. Game & Watch, and Snake easier, but not Marth, Zero Suit Samus and Ice Climbers, which is harder to play when you have Kirby. ☆

☆ Falco would just make fighting Meta Knight easier. ☆

☆ Ice Climbers is very complex to master, and since people fear chain grabs and infinites Ice Climbers have, don't expect them to just fight in your face, but to try to catch them and suspect the match to not end quick. Other than that, they would help you on Meta Knight at least. ☆

☆ Diddy Kong won't help you, but make the game more frustrating for those who can't fight him. ☆

☆ Pikachu is great for the reason I listed above. ☆

☆ Lastly, I STILL don't get how Olimar is a disadvantage. I know what the match up's say, but I don't see how this is a problem match up, video proof would help a lot not just words, that wouldn't help me understand. =/ ☆

 

[Kewkky]

Video proof won't help you understand, viper. You'll have to play an extremely campy grab-happy Olimar to know why.

 

[TrIkZ]

Video proof won't help you understand, viper. You'll have to play an extremely campy grab-happy Olimar to know why.

I sometimes feel so helpless! everything i do gets shield grabbed so i end up playing mind games but that only lasts so long until they catch on.
Does anyone think approaching with the inhale then spit out be helpful when you know they are going to shield grab?

 

[nesti9elbruto]

I have a strategy: I grab the enemy and my partner (not the cpu) selects Ganondorf or Cap. Falcon and make the normal special attack

 

[Delta Z]

^What the...

Anyway, I personally don't see why Kirby needs a counterpick for all of his negative matchups. Dunno about you guys, but I don't really see a 40:60 matchup as bad enough to need a CP. The only ones Kirby really needs outside help on are the Ice Climbers, and maybe Marth.