Frame windows

[Mobius_]

Does anyone know the timing window for
Legdehop > neutral B > regrab ledge
Ledgehop > Dair > upB > regrab

The timing for these seems to be really tight, I've only pulled them off a few times

 

[goateeguy]

Neutral B is close to frame perfect. You just have to get the input out extremely quickly. Ledgehop dair is much easier. You just have to get the dair out early enough that you don't fall too far down. Make sure you're not trying to go out too far or down too far to land the dair.

 

[BTmoney]

Does anyone know the timing window for
Legdehop > neutral B > regrab ledge
Ledgehop > Dair > upB > regrab

The timing for these seems to be really tight, I've only pulled them off a few times

if you slide your thumb to do SHDL as fox you can do the same motion to do this, just push down on the control stick, let go then slide from Y->B to ledge jump and neutral B

since I mained fox for quite a while I can do this pretty easily. Trying pushing Y and B in one motion, like put your thumb on Y then push it down (literally pushing it in and pushing your thumb down to B) so you hit them both in the same downwards "sliding" motion.
Idk how to explain it to people cause someone taught me in person but that's also how a lot of people multi shine so it's useful for different things