Fighting weegee

[M15t3R E]

Arguably olimars hardest match-up, I came across someone who handled luigi fairly well. The striking difference? Heavy use of olimar. Obviously a kid with lots of matchup experience he read the weegee well. Your thoughts? Also, I'm up to any input on how to take down the green man ^_^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8-xWSCBOMU


~Fino

I thought Peach was Olimar's hardest match-up?

 

[asob4]

it's more of a 60-40 imo, it's not as one sided as vs a smart peach can be :/

pivot grab a lot, and from that vid, nair a lot too lol

 

[Cook]

Pardon my ignorance, but is WSSJ supposed to be a really good Luigi or something? Anyway, as people have said before on here, you can often regrab Luigi several times out of d-throw if the Luigi doesn't jump out of it (which lots of them don't), or if you can grab them before they land after using their second jump. I know this helped me a lot when I was playing Arkive (or was it 8-bit) in doubles, but maybe it wouldn't work on him in singles.

 

[Fino]

Pardon my ignorance, but is WSSJ supposed to be a really good Luigi or something? Anyway, as people have said before on here, you can often regrab Luigi several times out of d-throw if the Luigi doesn't jump out of it (which lots of them don't), or if you can grab them before they land after using their second jump. I know this helped me a lot when I was playing Arkive (or was it 8-bit) in doubles, but maybe it wouldn't work on him in singles.

Lol.... luigi ALWAYS jumps... that's all he f***ing does. JUMP JUMP JUMP


~Fino

 

[Rocann]

I play biglou (3rd in GA power rankings) like, hours a week. I will (I know I tried to do this for chibo with Fatal but fatal is a ****) try to get some videos vs lou up.

 

[Dabuz]

ive actually found recently that the matchup really is more like 55-45 in luigis favor only, the trick is the stay very aggressive in the air with olis high priority smashes and not to stay grounded trying to fend him off there, especcially olis nairs, get good at abusive those in the match and staying very aerial and it actually becomes alot more even surprisingly

 

[DanGR]

Luigi can just SHfair->nair all day. You can't shield it or he'll just jab. You have to pivotgrab like crazy. I need to show y'all my Oli v Luigi matches. I'll use pivotgrabs literally more than half of my attacks.

My prediction is that this matchup will devolve into pivotgrabs versus fireballs (to punish pivotgrabbing- which it does)

 

[RichBrown]

That luigi never used tornado. I get ***** by tornado. Luigi is crazy hard to grab. I haven't played a good luigi in a while though, last time I played luigi all I ever did was grab, I've expanded my game a lot more since then. I'll try nairing all day lol

 

[Cook]

Doesn't f-smash stop tornado? And I already pivot grab for like half of my attacks, so maybe that's why I don't mind Luigi; I've never had one use fireballs to punish pivot grabs before.

 

[Awex]

Seriously? 60-40 Luigi? Other way around guys, lol.

You out-range Luigi by so much. His nair will stop smashes and hinders your combos, so don't get that close. Jab up b is dangerous, so don't get that close. He'll tornado towards you, so grab/utilt it.

*shurgs*

 

[DanGR]

Doesn't f-smash stop tornado? And I already pivot grab for like half of my attacks, so maybe that's why I don't mind Luigi; I've never had one use fireballs to punish pivot grabs before.

Nope, it doesn't.

 

[hippiedude92]

That first 30 seconds of the video made me sick. I almost had to close it. What kind of fool, does a RARBair fakeout and and not land it or whatnot? That's basically asking to be in olimar's grab range and stick a carrot up his a*s!

Also dangr pretty much hit the point of it. Pivotgrabs/grabs, is basically what you want. Luigi > Olimar in the air, olimar basically has a safe upb anyways.

Also that luigi tried buffering his attacks which honestly phailed.

 

[BigLøu]

Luigi oli matchup is imo like a 65:35 in luigis favor. Like the camping game for olimar is hindered by luigis ability to cyclone own the pikmin. Luigi can also kill olimar insanly low, and luigi just plain ***** olimar in the air. Olimar may though have a slight advantage whil on the ground ( you can grab weegee out of his cyclone) and up smash is brtual.

 

[hippiedude92]

Luigi oli matchup is imo like a 65:35 in luigis favor. Like the camping game for olimar is hindered by luigis ability to cyclone own the pikmin. Luigi can also kill olimar insanly low, and luigi just plain ***** olimar in the air. Olimar may though have a slight advantage whil on the ground ( you can grab weegee out of his cyclone) and up smash is brtual.

You haven't played or seen any good Olimar's have you? Btw, olimar's grab game can easily grab luigi's out of his nado unless he rises it. Olimar can kill I'm pretty sure around 80%-90%s with purples *insert his strongest ko move lol*, too. Just luigi has bigger variety of ko options on him. Olimar just plain ***** luigi on the ground, probably by far if you compare luigis ground compared to olis. And luigis nair> olis upsmash matchup is somewhere in the 60-40 or 55:45 going either way.

 

[BigLøu]

You haven't played or seen any good Olimar's have you? Btw, olimar's grab game can easily grab luigi's out of his nado unless he rises it. Olimar can kill I'm pretty sure around 80%-90%s with purples *insert his strongest ko move lol*, too. Just luigi has bigger variety of ko options on him. Olimar just plain ***** luigi on the ground, probably by far if you compare luigis ground compared to olis. And luigis nair> olis upsmash matchup is somewhere in the 60-40 or 55:45 going either way.

I have played tons and tons of good olimars. A few off the top of my head are andyg fino, and blackwlatz at ch4, if u presure oli with a barrage of offensive attacks then theres not too much they can do. Spamming pikmin doesnt work either cuz luigi can swat those things away like flies.As for the grab game i feel thats one of the few options and advantages oli has on luigi.

 

[RichBrown]

If he does a rising tornado then olimar is screwed. idk maybe i just need more experience but luigis have always given me hell...

 

[hippiedude92]

I have played tons and tons of good olimars. A few off the top of my head are andyg fino, and blackwlatz at ch4, if u presure oli with a barrage of offensive attacks then theres not too much they can do. Spamming pikmin doesnt work either cuz luigi can swat those things away like flies.As for the grab game i feel thats one of the few options and advantages oli has on luigi.

If you played them.. how can you still consider that 65:35? lol.. And spamming kinda does work o.0. It'll force luigi to go on aggressive side, and will be played the olimar wants him to play. The problem is that luigi HAS too be creative in getting Olimar's range. Olimar has like a wall in front of him. That's one of the drawbacks from luigi. Predictability.

 

[Rocann]

If you played them.. how can you still consider that 65:35? lol.. And spamming kinda does work o.0. It'll force luigi to go on aggressive side, and will be played the olimar wants him to play. The problem is that luigi HAS too be creative in getting Olimar's range. Olimar has like a wall in front of him. That's one of the drawbacks from luigi. Predictability.

I have no idea what you're even talking about. First you're acting like it's insane to say it's 65:35 (I think it's not that high either) when you yourself suggested it might be 60:40. You know melee is such a better game when a "problem" in a matchup is that you have to be creative

 

[iRjOn]

If you played them.. how can you still consider that 65:35? lol.. And spamming kinda does work o.0. It'll force luigi to go on aggressive side, and will be played the olimar wants him to play. The problem is that luigi HAS too be creative in getting Olimar's range. Olimar has like a wall in front of him. That's one of the drawbacks from luigi. Predictability.

I'm not in this but since when is a Luigi in defence mode against nearly any of the cast anyway...?

But either way idc...
I'm just putting it out there.