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Fighting a Luigi Discussion Thread

Gerbil

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Alright... I just got back from INN V and I must say, I know some low tier players and I can do fairly well against all of them, but I rarely see a Luigi at all. In fact GA only has one Luigi main, and he doesn't even play as often as far as I know. Let me just break it down that I can't seem to do anything against Luigi. He obviously slides too far to make effective use of shine combos, and his tornado seems to be something I just don't know how to counter against. I am open for all suggestions in fighting a Luigi and hope that I can get a decent discussion started on the topic.

Please and thanks for everyone's help.
 

choknater

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some suggestions:

- luigi's combos are devastating, but his approaches to fox are limited because his range isn't that good. he needs to be precise to be able to start something. if you keep moving, he will whiff, and you can start something up of your own.

- keep your combos simple. two to three hits at most. continuing large combos is risky against him because his air recovery from it is fast. his nair is a combo breaker.

- when he's in the air, don't be afraid to get a hit on him. even though he has double aerials, they don't have a lot of range. so if he misses, you get a free approach, bair, uair, or usmash. just something to rack up damage.

- be patient. what's important in this matchup is to stay ahead. he's difficult to kill quickly, especially if he can do tornado recovery. accurately edgeguard his side-B's and you'll have the lead in no time.

- DI behind him when he tries to uthrow or dthrow. it'll take you really far and it's almost uncomboable for him. unless he catches on, some luigis like ka-master will follow it up with a fast WD... but most of the time you'll escape if you DI behind him.

this matchup is all about patience... one fox around my area named KFC moves and plays very well vs luigi and there are times when he just waits for an opportunity to usmash, and he gets it.

youtube's down at the moment, but KFC and Meep from norcal have a few friendly matches... KFC has a great fox with lots of mindgames and his style in general is very patient and anti-luigi. when youtube's back up, you can look for some examples.
 

Oskurito

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Luigi is so easy... just spam your blaster, Up smash, some mind games and thats all. I find this combo very cool if luigi doesn't DI it: Nair(so you end behind him and he pops up)> waveshine backwards(he'll not go 2 far since he's in the air now) >nair>up tilt> uair (or bair). The illusion combo works good if your opponent doesn't know about it >_> and Upsmash out of the shield is very useful if he attacks you with double aerials.
 

Gerbil

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if you were fighting RAM I doubt you'd say Luigi is easy >.< Thanks to the second post for all that advice, and to the third post I guess I can try it, but he is going to DI away for obvious reasons...
 

nublet06

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if you camp you will destroy luigi.

keep spacing and annoy him with lasers. make him wavedash to you......and simply jump over his attack and kick him away with a sex kick or back air.

when you try to shine him....shine the top of his head.

make it so he needs to up b back on the ledge....and just do a basic edge hog. grab it....and roll of. hes dead.
 

SirNegroJuice

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Shine him like there's no tomorrow. He slides so far and his recovery isn't all that great against shine-spikes.
 

SCOTU

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If they can't tornado recovery, a mean thing to do is to CC his up-b, let it ping you (you take 1%) and then shinespike him. If he uses the tornado as an approach (the haul-*** move) an u-smash out of shield will destroy him.
 

Samus-T

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im gonna have to say fox's shine is the thing luigi would be most afriad of.with one shine it can send a luigi across the stage and hopefully off the level.if you get a luigi off the map, keep him off.bair, nair f tilt and hopefully a shine.hope this helps
 

RedYoshi92

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heres some advice that might help you,

1.Laser spam a whole lot

2.Shine alot,cuz when you shine luigi off the stage he has to put alot of effort into getting back up

3.Try to avoid that tornado alot
 
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