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FALCON PUNCH!! old vs new

Lgndknight

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Alright, recently I played SSB64 at a friends house (my n64 brok, bye star fox...) anyway, the old Falcon Punch seemed more... powerful. It felt much better than the one he has now. It felt like it had more kick, as opposed to the one now, which should they use?
 

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Definately the old one. The old Falcon punch could even aid in recovery sometimes. I think with the new mechanics, they should also let you charge up the "PONCH!" by holding B.
 

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But you gotta remember the New Falcon has THE KNEE! So his new Falcon Punch balances him out.

On a side note... have you guys noticed how in SSB 64 his Down b is called "CAPTAIN KICK" while in Melee it's called "FALCON KICK"?

I just noticed this yesterday ^^;
 

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oh wow, Falcon Kick sounds so much better! We'll what I really want to know is how the NEW falcon punch will work. I hope his final smash uses it to finish them off too.
 

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Since Captain Falcon has not been released and we don't know how any of his moves work in Brawl, shouldn't this go in like, the Melee section or somethin?
 

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We're still speculating on C.FAlcon's return.. So no.

If that was the case, then Knuckles threads, Ridley threads, and any character support-like thread should go into other sections, and not Brawl.
 

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We're still speculating on C.FAlcon's return.. So no.

If that was the case, then Knuckles threads, Ridley threads, and any character support-like thread should go into other sections, and not Brawl.
No it's not, it's talking about Captain Falcon's falcon punch from Melee compared to 64
 

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No it's not, it's talking about Captain Falcon's falcon punch from Melee compared to 64
i think he's asking which would be better or would you prefer for brawl.

I personally love both, and i can't wait to see what his final smash might be (falcon smash!).
But i don't love the idea of it being chargeable, i think it would taint the sheer power and simplicity of the move.
 

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hooray, his 64 punch was a little faster with less lag, now if only his old f-smash could come back too, instead of a wipy, girly , elbow
you must be a true capt falcon player! cuz his f-smash in 64 was SOO much better. it actually had range. and it lit people on fire to boot!
 

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Umm... I play C. Falcon a lot more in 64, but his Smash forward is a heck lot stronger in Melee (though less range)

In a way...I'm glad they removed wavedashing, and are making Brawl more comical overall... brings me back to the Smash 64 days... And with the BUMPER, Link's taunt, and other features that take us back to that time... I think Brawl's gonna be a LOT of fun.

All we need now is stages like Hyrule Castle, Saffron City and the original Peach's castle stage from 64 to feel complete. :)

(note: I do wavedash in Melee. My whole metagame with the Ice Climbers and Luigi involve WDing)
 

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Umm... I play C. Falcon a lot more in 64, but his Smash forward is a heck lot stronger in Melee (though less range)

In a way...I'm glad they removed wavedashing, and are making Brawl more comical overall... brings me back to the Smash 64 days... And with the BUMPER, Link's taunt, and other features that take us back to that time... I think Brawl's gonna be a LOT of fun.

All we need now is stages like Hyrule Castle, Saffron City and the original Peach's castle stage from 64 to feel complete. :)

(note: I do wavedash in Melee. My whole metagame with the Ice Climbers and Luigi involve WDing)
QFT

and if they dont add those stages, then we can create them!
 

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I completely forgot about the Stage Creation!!! 8D

This is awesome! There's no way we're NOT having those stages back now!

We could even recreate the BETA stages from Melee.. the Metal stage from 64.. heck, whatever we want!!


We could recreate the original Mario Bros battle arena as a stage.... or The Bizarro Sephiroth stage.. maybe even a Pac Man MAZE. And the Perfect Chaos showdown stage from Sonic Adventure!!

Thank you for reminding me of such an awesome option! There's no doubt in my mind this is gonna be the best game of all time.

February seems so far away...<,>
 

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Stage Creator won't let us make tornadoes, shoot pokemon out a building, or Suspend bumpers in midair, I'm sure of that, but teh created stages can LOOK like them.
 

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I completely forgot about the Stage Creation!!! 8D

This is awesome! There's no way we're NOT having those stages back now!

We could even recreate the BETA stages from Melee.. the Metal stage from 64.. heck, whatever we want!!


We could recreate the original Mario Bros battle arena as a stage.... or The Bizarro Sephiroth stage.. maybe even a Pac Man MAZE. And the Perfect Chaos showdown stage from Sonic Adventure!!

Thank you for reminding me of such an awesome option! There's no doubt in my mind this is gonna be the best game of all time.

February seems so far away...<,>
;) no problem. Even though we wont be able to have some of the hazards, itll still be cool. I plan on making every 64 stage that isnt included in the game. But i wouldn't be surprised if sakurai gave us all the old one since they would take practically no disk space...
 

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Hopefully they add 3 more past stage, so we can have Dk, Yoshi, Kirby, Saffron, Link, and Princess's castle. EDit: back to talking about Falcon Punch .. The old one was easier to combo into.
 

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and it gave you a little time to "hover" in the air, so you could use it in air. I usually catch by jumping to where they're going and falcon punching right when they're trying to recover
 

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captain falcon is basically confirmed, since theres no reason to take him out. Captain Falcon's been with Smash since it started, getting rid of Captain Falcon is like starting a band, then kicking off your drummer or lead guitarist after you've made three songs.
 

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captain falcon is basically confirmed, since theres no reason to take him out. Captain Falcon's been with Smash since it started, getting rid of Captain Falcon is like starting a band, then kicking off your drummer or lead guitarist after you've made three songs.
I'd say it's more like leaving one of your absolutely most well-received hits songs off of a "Best Of" album if your band was hugely successful
 

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The only problem (if you can call it problem) with the Kkirby Past Stage is that King DEDEDE is flying in the background.

Sure, there's no programming error or anything if both the character and the background sprite both appear at the same time... but it still would be ackward... so I hope they remove Dedede SPRITE, or use Fountain of Dreams instead.
 
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