Falcon Combo Help

[Fox McCLOUT]

So I've been practicing with Falcon for about a week now and I can beat all my friends but my Falcon overall is just really sloppy and I'm in need of some tips/advice on solid combos. I also have a bad habit of jumping way to far past my opponent and most of the time it guarantees them a free hit on me. Any advice, whether it be on his combos or just in general, would be greatly appreciated.

 

[KEYLIME SSB]

Melee or Sm4sh

 

[Fox McCLOUT]

Melee or Sm4sh

melee

 

[KEYLIME SSB]

Stomp - knee is obviously very strong, and chain grabbing works great as well. Try to prioritize upair and nair in neutral and stomp in ledgeguard.

 

[CAUP]

Melee or Sm4sh

Don't post on a thread if you aren't willing to even check what forum it's in.

So the combo you want to do varies completely depending on what character you are comboing. Against fox and falco, you probably want to downthrow into tech chase regrab, side b, stomp, or knee. Against floatier characters like puff or peach, downthrow knee is guaranteed (it's not actually guaranteed against peach but you should be going for it at this point). At lower percents, downthrow nair can be good or down throw up air. If they DI in after this first aerial, go for another. Look for knees after aerials where people DI hard in.

If you haven't learned it already, short hop fast fall l canceling aerials are necessary for falcon, required for most neutral and combos. You need to learn to effectively dash dance and move around, raise your level of control. You will see this seep into better control in your combos.

 

[KEYLIME SSB]

It says "discussion started under Captain Falcon," so that gives me no context for what game it is.

 

[Fox McCLOUT]

Don't post on a thread if you aren't willing to even check what forum it's in.

So the combo you want to do varies completely depending on what character you are comboing. Against fox and falco, you probably want to downthrow into tech chase regrab, side b, stomp, or knee. Against floatier characters like puff or peach, downthrow knee is guaranteed (it's not actually guaranteed against peach but you should be going for it at this point). At lower percents, downthrow nair can be good or down throw up air. If they DI in after this first aerial, go for another. Look for knees after aerials where people DI hard in.

If you haven't learned it already, short hop fast fall l canceling aerials are necessary for falcon, required for most neutral and combos. You need to learn to effectively dash dance and move around, raise your level of control. You will see this seep into better control in your combos.

What about Samus, Mario, and Sheik? would the same things apply?

 

[ChivalRuse]

Comboing with Falcon is basically just a flowchart.

After hitting the opponent with a move:
Flowchart Step 1: Consider the best move to hit the opponent with next
Flowchart Step 2: Based on the hitstun and DI, can I connect the move selected in Step 1? If not, go back and repeat Step 1 with a different move; if no moves will work, consider the option to tech chase or chase the opponent's aerial drift and jumps with up-air.

In order to make your flowchart stronger, you need to have a good idea of what the best move is in Step 1 (at killing percent, you usually want to use knee or uair to KO; otherwise, typically you want to select the best aerial [nair keeps them consistently in front of you, uair hits them up and away, knee hits them a bit further away, bair a little weaker than knee] or ground move to continue the combo - this could be grab, tilts, side-b, even jab sometimes).

 

[Fox McCLOUT]

Comboing with Falcon is basically just a flowchart.

After hitting the opponent with a move:
Flowchart Step 1: Consider the best move to hit the opponent with next
Flowchart Step 2: Based on the hitstun and DI, can I connect the move selected in Step 1? If not, go back and repeat Step 1 with a different move; if no moves will work, consider the option to tech chase or chase the opponent's aerial drift and jumps with up-air.

In order to make your flowchart stronger, you need to have a good idea of what the best move is in Step 1 (at killing percent, you usually want to use knee or uair to KO; otherwise, typically you want to select the best aerial [nair keeps them consistently in front of you, uair hits them up and away, knee hits them a bit further away, bair a little weaker than knee] or ground move to continue the combo - this could be grab, tilts, side-b, even jab sometimes).

It might just be that i'm not that good with falcon but I find it a lot harder to combo floaties like puff and samus so is there anything specific that works well on floaties?

 

[CAUP]

eh just watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y8rQ_0zNIg

Edit: And this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVOU9GgLqqU

 

[Fox McCLOUT]

eh just watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y8rQ_0zNIg

Edit: And this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVOU9GgLqqU

So I've been messing around with falcon and I've found myself kind of repeating dair to uthrow to knee but I don't know if that is the most efficient way to KO them. Also, SHFFLing with falcon has really improved my overall game so thanks for that btw

 

[CAUP]

Who are you comboing? Every combo depends on who you are comboing. Different combos are guaranteed or not guaranteed on different characters.

 

[Fox McCLOUT]

Who are you comboing? Every combo depends on who you are comboing. Different combos are guaranteed or not guaranteed on different characters.

the main characters are sheik, peach, samus, and mario.

 

[CAUP]

Up throw knee is not guaranteed on any of those characters I'm pretty sure. BUT if they DI in or have no DI, I can see it being a combo. Also it's percent based. If you have 20XX you can test if stuff is a real combo or not by going into training mode and setting a save state and then seeing against all the different DIs if you can get the combo.

 

[Leviathan741]

I'd say just switch to Fox like everyone else does and call it a day.

 

[F!R3]

Don't try to go for specific combos, rarely will that ever work since most opponents know how to DI. If you just read their DI the combos will just happen. It's all about reading their DI right and putting out the right hitbox to hit them. Falcon combos are generally hit them --> any aerial --> any aerial --> knee. But there are certain situations where angles up f tilt works better for a combo extension. Comboing in melee really just comes down to hitting late aerials so you have more time to hit them in hit stun